Posted by Lou Pilder on October 9, 2013, at 4:14:21
In reply to Lou's response-forstphyr » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2013, at 18:58:00
> > > We will never forget. ... I may be harmed by these terms, but I am not going to destruct myself over this.
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> > Some traumas can't be forgotten.
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> > I regret that I harmed you by using those terms. I'm glad you're not going to self-destruct. (I didn't think you would. I've seen that you're resilient.)
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> > > When I came here, I saw your TOS that stated not to post anything that could accuse or put down another and to not post what could put down those of other faiths. There was also posted by you that you understood that accusations and ridicule were posted against a person and said that you were sorry if the recipient of those accusations or ridicule were hurt, for accusations and put downs could cause hurt to the recipient of them.
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> > I'm also sorry if I misled you. If you'd like to minimize the risk of feeling hurt, I suggest you avoid Admin.
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> > > A. Do you think that there is the potential for Jews and Islamic people and all other people that have their religion with an agenda not centered in Christ could feel put down when they read the post in question that has #5 that states that the top ten worst reasons for a religion is if they have their agenda not centered in Christ?
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> > Yes.
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> > > C. Would you be willing to address the World Jewish Congress and explain why your rules have not been applied to that post
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> > Sure, would they be interested in Babble?
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> > > D. Would you be willing to face an Islamic court and defend yourself that you have not posted in the thread of that post a sanction like other posts that put down those of other faiths?
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> > No.
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> > > E. You say that you take responsibility for what you post here. If a Jewish or Islamic child or another child that is of a religion that does not have their agenda centered in Christ, is bullied because they are Jews or Islamic or others and the bullies said that they saw the post in question on "Dr. Bob's" and taunted and mocked and ridiculed the children that they were Jews or Islamic, and that they themselves were Christians, and that Jews and Islamic people are in a catagory of religions that are of the "worst" because their agenda is not centered in Christ, would you take responsibility for the injuries or deaths that could come to those children if the bullies cited your site and that post as any part of their bullying?
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> > > Lou Pilder
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> > No. I'd see those who injured or killed the children as responsible. But a jury could disagree.
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> > > Would it be correct to interpret your overcontrolling and insensitive treatment of people here as resulting from PTSD because presumably your ancestors were raped in Nanking or worked to death on a railroad?
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> > Maybe it would. Would that ameliorate your judgmental responses?
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> > > The slur would be that the persons opinions or behaviour was caused by trauma and not by the grievances which were based in reality.
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> > > I think Bob knew Lou well enough to anticipate that it would hurt him.
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> > > Homelycygnet
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> > I didn't mean to imply that Lou's grievances have no basis in reality. I've seen some bases, and addressed them.
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> > I regret that I hurt Lou. But it's possible that judgmental responses hurt him, too, and if they're ameliorated, he might feel less hurt overall.
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> > Bob
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> Mr Hsiung,
> You say that I could be hurt if I post on this board. This is the way that you prescribe to members that want to have you address posts that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings. You also say to se the notification system, but there are years of outstanding notifications from me.
> And year after year as long as those posts that could put down, in particular but not limited to Jews, are left to stand, there are others besides me that could be hurt.
> Lou PilderMr Hsiung,
You say that there is a basis for reality in my grievances here, but those grievances are not specified. My concern is in our discussion now concerning the statement that one of the top ten worst reasons for a religion is if the religion had their agenda not centered in Christ. You do say that Jews, Islamic people, Hindus and all other people that have their religion with an agenda not centered in Christ could feel put down, and even insulted IMHO, when they read the statement in question. I read your rule here as to not post what could put down those of other faiths. And the statement is not on the administrative board and stands today.
I have the following requests and if you post answers to them, then I think that readers could have a better understanding of this ongoing situation.
A. You say that you do what will be good for this community as a whole and ask readers to try to trust you in that. What good will come to this community by leaving the statement in question in the manner that when people read it they could think that it is conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of the community that one of the top ten worst reasons for a religion is if the agenda for those religions is not centered in Christ?
B. Why is that good, if you post a reason for it to be good?
C. Do you agree that the statement could be seen as that the {only} religion that is not in the top ten worst reasons for it to exist, is the religion that has its agenda centered in Christ?
D. In your thinking that one match could start a forest fire, could not the fire of hate, hatred toward the Jews and Islamic people and all other faiths that are not centered in Christ, be started from the statement in question?
E. If so, would you agree that the fire is still burning since the statement stands here and that I have a basis for my requests to you here?
Lou PIlder
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