Posted by Lou Pilder on October 7, 2013, at 20:54:22
In reply to Lou's reply- ownleigh-The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Lou Pilder on October 5, 2013, at 20:18:33
> > > > But be it as it may be, you have posted that a benefit could come about of something here that I am concerned about, but there is not a citation as to which concern it is. You say that the benefit could be improved rules. Could that criteria trump what is posted if what is posted could put down or accuse another? This could have the potential for a subset of readers here IMHO to think that any post in question that could not be conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of the group, that you could say it is acceptable if a better rule will come from a discussion of a post that raises what is not supportive for discussion, even if is accuses or puts down the person in question?
> > >
> > > Yes, and yes.
> > >
> > > > The one that we are working on here is [..the top ten worst reasons...] that could stoke the furnace of hate as long as it is still burning.
> > >
> > > What if she had posted something more parallel to her #7, for example:
> > >
> > > > > 5. to foster any agenda that is not centered in Christ or other scripture
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > > That type of discussion could be made without a subject person,including me. And the rule here is to be civil at all times. That the admin forum is for discussion is true. But it is for discussion of the administarton of the site, not any one person or group of people.
> > >
> > > > > What about someone who wasn't exposed to trauma themselves, but whose people were? Could they also be hypervigilant, irritable, self-destructive, etc.?
> > > >
> > > > The context could lead readers to think that I am a subject person in your post.
> > >
> > > That's an example of how posting without a subject person doesn't necessarily keep people from thinking they might be the subject person.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > > Your description of me that readers could get is something that is humiliating to me as I am feeling from reading what you have posted that readers could think is about me here. And your statement that could be thought to be about me could harm my reputation, decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile, disparaging and disagreeable feelings against me. I am not what you have posted here. I am not hypervigilant, I am not irritable, I am not self-destructive.
> > > > You say you do what will be good for this community as a whole. And you can steer readers to go your way by controlling the content as to what is acceptable or not. What you have written about me here is not acceptable to me.
> > >
> > > Thank you for being willing to engage with me in this discussion. That was a general thought I had. I'm not saying it applies to you. I accept that applying it to you isn't acceptable to you. Let's say it did apply to someone else, Poster X. The idea would be that X belonged to a community that was traumatized, that X was traumatized indirectly. It can feel humiliating to be seen as the victim of trauma. Who wants to be seen as a victim? Still, being seen as a victim doesn't necessarily harm the reputation of X or induce hostile feelings against them. Especially here. Here, it could induce empathy, tolerance, and support. Which would be good for the community as a whole.
> > >
> > > Bob
> >
> > Mr Hsiung,
> > You wrote about {what if} the statement that says that the religions that have their agenda not centered in Christ are in the category of the "worst" , had something added to it.
> > Before I go into that reasoning, I would like for you and others following this discussion to read the following.
> > Now those that are ignorant of the teachings of the latter day saints, aka Mormons, or LDS, could have a better understanding of this mater if they read what I am going to offer here. Then I will post what could open this up to those that are ignorant of their teachings and how those teachings are involved in this discussion of the statement ,[...the top 10 WORST...]. This could help those ignorant of the LDS teachings to understand what {other scriptures} are. Those are The Pearl of Great Price, Doctrines and Covenants, and the book of Mormon. They contain other books like Nephi and such.
> > You see, the statement in #5 is Mormon Doctrine and there is more...
> > Lou Pilder
> > To see this
> > A. Pull up Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [Worst,as written in official Mormon scripture,Jouhn D. Stone]
>
> Now the statement in #5 says that one of the top ten worst reasons for a religion is to have an agenda not centered in Christ.
> If that is allowed to be seen here as civil and supportive, then all religions that have their agenda not centered in Christ (redacted by respondent).
> I would like reads to see this: To see this, pull up Google and type in:
> [The On Tr Church, Boyd K. Packer]
> You will see his pic also in the url there is {general-conference}
> LouMr Hsiung,
You asked if something was added to #5 like {or other scriptures} as to what if.
The statement in #5 is what it is. The statement in #7 is about religions that do not align their scriptures and are changing and make things up as they go along which is another of {the top ten worst reasons} which does not annul what #5 purports about Jews, Islamic people, Hindus and all other faiths that do not have their agenda centered in Christ.
Lou Pilder
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URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1051847.html