Posted by gabbi~1 on April 12, 2006, at 23:49:00
In reply to Re: the blocking policies » gabbi~1, posted by special_k on April 12, 2006, at 22:41:52
> ah. i don't think i ever mean to hurt people. but yeah, provoke people to THINK i do think i try and do that - i don't try to provoke people to ANGER i don't think... sometimes i know people are likely to feel upset... re politics... i guess i think / feel that sometimes a little provoking (to THINK) is good for us (even if it does hurt a little) i don't know... i don't know what to say...I do see your point, I don't agree. I've never been one to be provoked to think by someone pushing. I've seen people be passionate, and have good points, and changed my mind.
I've seen people be angry, and explain their thoughts in anger, and changed or expanded my thoughts.
I think for me, it's that when the student is ready the teacher appears. The teacher must be chosen.
At least, that's how it is for many, or I think most, unless they are the type who will follow a cult leader just because he's loud enough..I also think, that the people on politics especially do think, and made considered choices, just as yours are. Perhaps not in the way we like, or the way we and I do mean you and I are sure is correct. It doesn't however mean they are not consciously thinking.
I would take it as quite a heavy insult if someone thought they had to provoke me to think. And as human nature is, most likely instead of thinking about the topic at hand, I would look at the person being provocative and make sure they were absolutely consistant, and perfectly thought through themselves.
And as is the case generally what it does is magnify their flaws, you see their own foibles, as many as your own, simply different, it breeds malcontent I think.Providing alternate views, well that's another thing altogether.
but i don't mean to hurt :-( though sometimes when i'm in a state maybe i do a little :-( but then it is something i beat myself up over (really...) but i'm trying not to beat myself up :-( but maybe i should :-( i don't know... hard issue for me, i'm sorry :-(
>No, if you're aware and honestly trying not to that's what we all do, just in different areas.
Don't beat yourself up, and don't say "I'm trying I know I'm REALLY trying"
My mother used to say that to me, and it's a horrible thing to say about anyone, including yourself.
> > Whatever, specific to politics maybe, maybe not..
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> yeah. thinking about civilians who are killed... people living on the streets... people living on welfare... it is hard yes. a little bit of hurt... the potential for lots of innocent lives to be saved... i don't know what to say... if people feel upset / pissed then they tend to tune out anyways...
>They do, and how many times can it be said, expecting a different answer. Some of those people though, 2 years from now, will read about it, in a different way, and think.. now I know what she was talking about.
Some won't. It's about timing, its about presentation. I think
> > In some ways you are exquisitely sensitive to people.
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> :-)
> i try. but yeah in 'some ways' and not so much in others... but i'm trying (maybe i'm very trying) but i am trying...
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> > You're a bundle of contradictions.
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> yeah. depends what mood / state i'm in... i had a teacher at school who said i reminded her of this poem about the girl with a curl right in the middle of her forehead and when she was good she was really really good and when she was bad she was horrid. she meant that affectionately too... maybe there is some truth to that. :-( i don't know... :-(
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> > The apology is hard, because I've read a couple of posts where you said that you that you tend to apologize when you don't mean it.
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> no. i mean apologies when i say them. i do. i can't quite remember the post you are talking about...
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Oh it was one to Racer on the admin board a while back, when you were talking about Socrates.
I'm glad that got cleared up too.> i think it goes like this...
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> if i post about SI and someone is triggered...
> i'm very sorry they feel triggered :-(
> but i don't necessarily wish i could take back what i said...
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> does this make sense?Yes, that makes perfect sense.
I'm writing like a robot, because I dare not let any emotion free tonight.
Please don't take it as coldness : )
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