Posted by chad_3 on September 9, 2002, at 18:06:30
In reply to Re: Nardil v Parnate, Klonopin, Xanax, gabaergic, SP, posted by cybercafe on September 9, 2002, at 14:29:53
Hi Cyber - long post I have time to pick a couple...
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> ummm.. i think any type of stimulating drug is more likely to produce more asocial behaviour ...Nardil is pretty stimulating...and good for SP!
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> > I think 5ht, DA, and GABA agonists are they agents shown most effective for SP to date.
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> ahhh... but pure stimulants (dopamine only i think) seem to worsen anxiety no? ....most of the parkinson's meds - probably yes...
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> ummm... i have always found it very very easy to start a conversation with strangers... but after the first 2 seconds are up i tend to get scared ... i always thought that meant i was lacking norepenephrine (reward for continuing behaviours?) ....... or is fear of being looked at/judged caused mainly by GABA?I think I would go by what works for you over pharmacologic theory ...
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> > > however doesn't evidence seem to suggest that in fact moclobemide is not better than nardil ?correct.
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> hey klonopin alone shows robust results in studies for SP no? (i'm guessing)
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yes - I believe in those without comorbidies (ie; depression or dysthymia)Pubmed you can check maoi-a + maoi-b for axiolytic effect, link from my webpage.
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> wow if what you say is true i would much rather be on nardil..... basically you are saying that people who report bad side effects on nardil are those who have just started the drug and not those who have been on it for a while?Very common.
> and they probably overreact because their experience on SSRIs is that side effects don't get better which is not valid to apply to MAOIs?
>Particularly Nardil yes.
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> > If you want Zyprexa - certainly you won't have much trouble in 2002....
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> is there a better drug for someone who "thinks too much"don't know.
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> to take enough klon to get me to stop thinking puts me in a "stupor" or puts me to sleep
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add parnate of effexor or nardil why not?
> i guess i'm just anti-benzo... i want an anxiolytic cocktail that does not cause drowsiness or cognitive effects.... also don't like the ups and downs i had on klonis up to you. everybody is different and makes their own choices.
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> yes i find you to be quite informative and enjoy discussing things with you very much, thanks :)sure - write anytime. I do suggest to you however 1 thing more than anything right now. You can only theorize so much. Get a clear diagnosi(s) - and do good trials with meds proven most effective for your case. That is really the bottom line - to try some things. Thinking doesn't get it done... Is up to you if you want good results...
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