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Trim and sleep » fachad

Posted by Cece on June 13, 2002, at 0:54:44

In reply to Nortrip vs. other TCAs on H1 and Ach Blockade » johnj, posted by fachad on June 12, 2002, at 23:00:15

Hi Fachad-

I've posted earlier on this thread, but have some new developments/questions/feedback.

I've been taking 25 mg Trim for over 6 mos. having switched from Nortiptyline- my pdoc thought that it would give me less morning grogginess and better sleep. And it did.

But I've been weaning off benzos, and since my nighttime dose of xanax has gone from .75mg to .25mg I have been dreaming 'too much'. And I have not been falling asleep very fast, which is okay cuz I used to fall out like a log, and sleeping more restlessly which is not so okay. My body temp is fine and I don't wake up too early.

I used to have a problem with spending too much time in REM sleep and not enough in the deeper restorative level. I would wake up feeling like I had been working all night. My various combo of meds seemed to take care of that. (I was diagnosed a few years ago with "Upper Airway Obstructive Disorder"- a step below sleep apnea, and set up with a CPAP machine- but eventually decided that it was a crock (a long story)).

Anyway, I thought that you had said that Trim promotes deep level sleep- ? If that's so, am I just adjusting to less benzo? I really need that deep sleep.

My pdoc has just encouraged me to take a small dose of zyprexa (1/4 to 1/2 of a 2.5mg tab) regularly as I am becoming destabilized by summer's approach (I have reverse SAD). I have taken it very occassional PRN at that dose and it definitely makes me saner, but I dread the weight gain. I took half a tab yesterday and slept better last night.

So now I'm confused- again- and wondering what to do. Take the zyprexa and deal with the weight somehow? Take more Trim? Going back up on benzos is out- I need to clear my brain of their cobwebs, and you said earlier that benzos mess with "sleep architecture".

You seem to be pretty knowledgeable; do you have any feedback to offer?

Thanks, Cece


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