Posted by Jason911 on February 22, 2002, at 23:11:08
In reply to Re: selegiline stuff » Jason911, posted by JohnX2 on February 22, 2002, at 22:44:44
I have been on Wellbutrin for 3 months!!! 300mg/day didn't work and finally at 450mg/day it is starting to take effect, it's been like 9 days or so on this. I'm beginning to feel better but WAY more anxiety attacks. Klonopin is up to 2.5mg/day recently and.... well let be back up a step. When I was on the 300mg/day dose, a few weeks ago (since I was prescribed .5mg clonazepam for sleep/anxiety) I took 2mg of Klonopin at once and for that one day I felt amazing!!! My anxiety was gone I felt relaxed, I felt normal. The Wellbutrin hadn't seemed to work at all until the recently added increase to 450/mg a day. And either I need to up the Klonpin dosage or I'm stopping the Wellbutrin. I know that Wellbutrin only midly binds the DA uptake and actually diminishes it's release! I am confident that selegiline will help with Klonopin and NO Wellbutrin. People in past posts were worried about Wellbutrin+Klono+Deprenyl and seizure risk.. but Klonopin has anti-seizure benefits, so that wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, I am going to stop the Wellbutrin and go on the selegiline. Even if the 5mg/day (which WILL inhibit MAO-B) doesn't have an extreme dopaminergic effect..the PEA levels should make me feel alert, sexually stimulated, while the Klonopin acts to ease my anxiety. Just read this post my a guy named Adam:
" First off, a disclaimer: I've only done a cursory
browsing of the Selegeline posts.
As I mentioned in another thread, my pdoc
(surprisingly) gave me Selegeline for Social
Anxiety, after Nardil quickly pooped out but
created troublesome, long-lasting side effects.
The Selegeline was a total bust after four weeks
(at 15mg). No reduction whatsoever in my Social
Phobia (BTW, I am not clinically depressed).There WERE some pleasant (!) side effects, such as
increased libido and intensified sexual sensations
(nice!), as well as some needed (mild) lowering of
my blood pressure. No bad side effects.But since there was zilch improvement in the
Social Anxiety, I went off the Selegeline (Cold
Turkey's O.K. at 15 mg), and insisted he let me
try Klonopin (currently 2mg/day). Fairly
promising results after about a week. But then I
suggested (to my rather perplexed pdoc) that I add
back some low-dose Selegeline for mildly
hypotensive effects and possible sexual/cognitive
effects...and WOW! I don't know if this will
last, but the Social Phobia is virtually gone; my
confidence and concentration are currently through
the roof (despite minimal sleep of late, owing to
ultra-busy-ness, NOT insomnia or mania), libido
sky-high, and BP down (though not quite
enough...may move from 5mg. to 10mg. of
Selegeline...still low enough to avoid the MAOI
food restrictions...OR add pindolol...but I'm
afraid to mess with such success!) Of course,
Selegeline's fabled life-extension and
brain-protection qualities don't hurt either. I
probably shouldn't have written this; I'm rarely
superstitious, but for some reason I'm afraid I'll
jinx the wonderfully effective combination I
concocted!Maybe Selegeline works best for augmenting other
meds in mental problems, just as it serves as a
levodopa (sp?) potentiator for Parkinson's. Just
a thought. (As always, YMMV) Of course, your
doctor would have to carefully assess any possible
adverse reactions/dangerous combinations.In any event, I'm excited about the
Klonopin/Selegeline combo. Has anyone else used
this for Social Anxiety, or have I discovered a
"magic combo"? ">>> Well, there you have it. It took a while till the real solution was found. I think this will be the same in my case. Wellbutrin does nothing but cause anxiety. 1 pill of Yohimbe Fuel (8mg yohimbine) causes the same effects in me and I don't want all that Wellbutrin crap in my system. It's just making more and more anxiety filled!!!! I hate it!!!!! My pdoc is an idiot. He refuses to prescribe selegiline so I've ordered it myself. I'm going off the Wellbutrin. Period. I've made up my mind. And I've also made up my mind that Klonopin is the best anti-anxiety med in the nation but has only one drawback... short-term memory effects. That's where Jumex comes into play. And I wouldn't mind the sexual benefits as my sex drive has been pretty much crappy. I want to have sex and everything but my body won't cooperate when the anxiety kicks in. I know I don't have physical ED. I think the PEA will fix that right up. I'm going to add a regimine of 600mg phenylalanine (converts to PEA), Vitamin B6 (helps convert phenylalanine to PEA), and PEA is rapidly broken down by MAO-B which deprenyl inhibits. I feel it in my bones... I HAVE FOUND THE SOLUTION. But it'll take 3 weeks for the Jumex to arrive... damn. -Jason911
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