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Re: MAOIs and safety » SLS

Posted by kregpark@yahoo.com on September 3, 2001, at 3:57:35

In reply to Re: MAOIs and safety » kregpark@yahoo.com, posted by SLS on September 1, 2001, at 7:33:29

Hi Scott, sure.
(I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AT END TOO!! :) )

> I hope you don't mind if I ask but a few questions.
> What has worked best for you?

I think the next thing i'll put at http://socialfear.com
is my drug diary, but I can answer that pretty quick.

Overall (pre-Provigil) I prerred Klonopin regularly and ...

R1) 3 years: Nardil 45-60 + Klonopin 4.25-4.75
R2) 1/2 year: Zoloft 50 + Serzone 300 + Klonopin 4.25-4.75

R1 for me is non-sedating and more energy, vigilance, and sexual assertivness.
R2 for me is more Pro-Social but not as good for work (lower energy, vigilance,
sometimes lazy and less assertive sexually)

Actually, I have thought recently that
PROVIGIL could fit or replace drug(s) in R2 nicely,

I also like TRAMADOL + DA/NE enhancer (ie; Wellbutrin)
but lack much experience to date (work makes it hard
to experiment: employers like a person whose personality
they recognize each day !!! :)

I also very much like Xanax + DA/NE enhancer,
HOWEVER, I could not handle the 8 times a day
dosing of Xanax I require (why wasn't Xanax SR brought to U.S.?)

> How did you react upon adding each of Provigil, amantadine, and yohimbine?

Adding Provigil: GREAT! Fast acting energizing felt happier.
Adding Amantadine: Energizing but started becoming more serious.
Effective for energy and sexual side effects
but moderate anti-sp effect. Overall did not like.
Adding yohimbine: Did not like. Helpful some for sexual side effects,
Nardil actually seems to blunt yohimbines effect to a large degree
(was axiogenic but low or high dose not much different).
Overall unpleasant and I definitely don't recommend
for any reason with MAOI for sexual side effects because
other agents work far better if that is the purpose.
As for pro-social, I can't imagine it's application there.

> > also Serzone (this one can make Nardil much like Parnate!!!),
> This is one combination that I have been very interested to try. Last year, I was about to add Serzone to Parnate + desipramine + Lamictal, but grew shy when one of our posters here described what might have been some sort of dystonic reaction upon adding it to Nardil. Can you be specific on how adding Serzone changed your experience such that Nardil felt like Parnate?

Years ago I tried Serzone with Zoloft50 + Klonopin4.5. I was pleased to disconver that
it reduced sedation, increased efficacy, and reduced sexual side effects of Zoloft (all good stuff!!)

About a year ago I temporary had raised Nardil from 60 to 75mg.
I had more anxiety and tried Serzone, about 200.
This actually made me *more* anxious, and quite horny!!!
300 Serzone was max of this effect, more led to sedative effects.
I have previously and since often added low dose
Serzone to Nardil + Klonopin. It allows me to reduce
Klonopin and I used it at 200mg while lowering Klonopin
from 4.5mg to 1mg. I then raised K to 2.5 where it's at now.

QUESTION:
What is lamictal like? Isn't that lamotrigine?

I've often wondered about it, as lamotrigine is
in the same class as gabapentine, but while
gabapentin has SSRI like side effects, lamotrigine
appears to have dopaminergic like side effects
in many people, such as rash, and some others I can't
recall exactly but I think possible insomnia or hypotension
or something...

Any comments on lamictal (lamotrigine?) and
your current regimen also - greatly appreciated,

KregPark


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