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Shelli et al, Cam too if you're reading this » shelliR

Posted by Elizabeth on August 12, 2001, at 6:02:13

In reply to Re: Stuff » Elizabeth, posted by shelliR on August 12, 2001, at 0:40:10

> > Hi Shelli. I get what you mean now about energy-sapping alters -- thanks. I'm really learning some useful things about dissociative disorders from you, I think.
>
> I'm glad; it's a topic I know a lot about, unlike uh medical stuff. :-)

I think exchanging knowledge is a good thing.

> well, I just have been loading myself with various and sundry synthetic codeine and it works for the migraine, but then I may be jeopardizing the anti-depressant effects by building up a tolerance.

Maybe. How much hydrocodone do you take for a migraine?

> It doesn't seem like that yet, though. When I load up on it because of a migraine, if I don't have a migraine the next day I'm able to go back to my regular dose.

I think intermittent, ad hoc use of opiates (like you were doing before with the hydro) is probably going to be the best for you, since the OxyContin seems to be losing effect. Since you did it for a long time without overusing and without needing to increase the dose, I don't see a problem with it. It'd be nicer if you could just keep taking oxycodone with no tolerance, but it doesn't look like that's what's happening.

> :-) As far as grad school in psychology, most of all I really loved my course on methodology. I think everyone should be required to take a methodology course, no matter what field they are in. It makes you a more educated reader of any study.

Oh, I agree thoroughly. It was something I was supposed to learn in my required lab course, and I took a probability class my freshman year that covered statistical methods somewhat, but I never really had a good grasp of that stuff, and I would like to. I'm hoping that my significant other, who originally was studying to be a neuropharmacologist, can teach me some of that sutff. I have picked up some along the way from reading critiques and so forth, but nothing really substitutes for good old-fashioned formal education.

> One of my neighbors has a great position at a local university. She teaches one class a semester and all the rest of the time she gets to do her own research.

Sounds like my dad (philosophy prof), only he writes instead of doing research (although there's a lot of research required for his writings, that's for sure).

> Criminology is a good field to go into because congress always throws a lot of money into "fighting crime".

Heh. My sister has gotten interested in criminology. (She's a film student, an area where I could see her applying what she learns about criminology!)

> Yes, I totally agree with your analysis of options (1) and (2) and I would add regarding option (1) that one can still experience horrible boredom even when one is depressed, another major problem with that option.

When I'm depressed I don't enjoy anything. It's not boredom exactly, more just flatness: things don't perk me up, I can't find the silver lining even when there's no cloud.

> Now there could be option (3) however: just going to a non-career oriented class--one of the arts, or yoga, whatever. (maybe for you, math) < vbg >

Between MIT and UCSB, I've been so traumatised by math that I don't think I could bear to do it again!

My problem is I'm just not artistic. I mean, not at all: I'm not good at it, and I don't enjoy it. And anyway, I think I'd hardly be able to do any decent art if I were depressed at the time -- jeez, that's so hard to imagine even.

> In defense of my therapist (who was about three therapists ago), I didn't ever get the impression that she thought my life would be fine if I got some structure, but I do think if you can find the right structure, it is a healthier way to go, rather than hang out at home everyday by yourself.

Well, that's true -- if it's the right structure. But the idea that *any* sort of structure is better than no structure really bothers me. I would hate to be forced into a work, school, or therapy situation that would make me feel even more miserable and down on myself.

> no dispute, just a difference of opinion (and one of several over the last year): starts with http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20010725/msgs/72674.html.

Ahh. You mean http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20010731/msgs/72750.html ?

I sort of feel like Sal does try to present an image of himself as someone who is an "expert," and I believe Cam is probably right that Sal doesn't have a very sophisticated or critical understanding of the articles he cites; I also get the impression (just an impression) that Sal is trying to impress people by cutting and pasting articles without much regard for the source and without really understanding the full results and implications of the articles that he is citing. A person with a healthy skepticism wouldn't take Sal's abstract/article/URL posts too seriously (although, to be fair, they often do contribute interesting ideas), but let's be real here: not everyone has a healthy skepticism, and I don't believe in gratuitously victimising people for being ignorant. You know?

In general, I would say that Cam raised some important issues, but it seemed to me that he was overreacting, almost taking it personally or something.

> But I'm not sure that Lorraine even meant that, and I definitely feel strange talking about someone instead of to them.

Fair enough (that's why I addressed Cam in the subject: line). I'd like some feedback from Lorraine as to what she was talking about, too. Lorraine? You there? :-)

> If there was any way that I could have said it to the person involved without everyones else's .02, and the possibility of a heated battle, that would have been the decent thing to do.

Okay, now I'm confused again.

> I just I feel like I can say anything on this thread because I would assume that most people, even those who started reading it, would have given up following it out of confusion, boredom, whatever. < g >

Heh. Yeah, I have trouble believing that anybody besides us 3 is really following this thread. It's kinda cool actually.

> Wow, 1:36 am est!

Much later than that, dude! (It's actually EDT, BTW.)

> Goodnight.....................................

Sweet dreams.

-elizabeth


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