Posted by jojo on July 31, 2001, at 21:21:44
In reply to Re: Buprenorphine Question, posted by Elizabeth on July 31, 2001, at 18:38:32
> > I've always had trouble taking nose DROPS sitting up, especially using a syringe and
> > needle.
>
> Uhh, removing the needle is a crucial step! So, what position do you do it in?
>
> > An Afrin pump dispenser provides 1 ml in 7-8 sprays. Besides, it looks a lot more
> > innocuous!
>
> That's true. I'd be concerned about inconsistent doses -- buprenorphine is so potent and so concentrated that a variance of 0.1 cc can make all the difference.
>0.1 cc out of 1.0 is still only 10%, and since I don't feel its effects or affects
(must be that injection of Xylocaine I take beforehand ; >) ... ). I'm sitting up, of
course. How else does one use a "spray" bottle, you silly goose!This discussion revolves around the philosophy of "Euphoriant", which we'll define as
a drug that increases ones physical energy and cathexis, a useful, old psychoanalytic
term referring to the amount of "mental energy", or connectedness, that one feels
towards something, and whose drug response is dose related, and occurs in temporal
juxtaposition with the taking of the drug, and another type of drug, which I choose to
call an antidepressant, which will raise one's energy level and cathexis to a level
generally somewhat less than that of the Psychiatrist's, but to about the level that
the patient feels he is entitleted to , or "remembers" ; >) having enjoyed. [It ain't like
the good old days, but then again, it never was].If I'm just getting high on the buprenorphine, it's not much of a high, virtually
unnoticeable, and it won't matter much if I take 0.8 or 1.0 or any, for that matter.
Unless I just haven't crashed yet (I shudder at the thought), it appears to be a very
effective "antidepressant", and after one month, the only "side effects" seem to be a
little constipation during the first few days.As this is REALLY off label, and there have only been a few publications, how do we
know that 12 mg. per day is the appropriate dose. Your impression is that one feels
the effect in an hour or so. I can always take another hit.jojo
> -elizabeth
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