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Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 29, 2015, at 23:52:40
i've really been behind on a book i have to do a report on, it's like i don't have the motivation to even do when i force myself to do it......difficult when a sluggy feeling takes over all the time.....
unless i get a rush of dopamine, it's forcing myself to read
i hate it, i feel like i was back in high school......i hate that feeling of being behind
Posted by baseball55 on March 30, 2015, at 21:27:01
In reply to procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 29, 2015, at 23:52:40
If you don't do this already, you should get out of the house to do schoolwork. Go to a library or to study areas at the school. Treat schoolwork like a regular job - go to work out of the house, keep regular hours, etc.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 3, 2015, at 16:34:47
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by baseball55 on March 30, 2015, at 21:27:01
i got it turned in.....but the rush having to force yourself to do something when had plenty of time to do it.....
i think the reason procrastination is done because don't want to do it because it's a tendious task, below regular actives that give more stimulation......or not get around to it
im in the computer lab right now......
my cognitive skills really, are not good, to read a book intensly ahd have incredible anxiety while reading it to get it finished, thats a ship with water running on board
thanks for your response though....
r
Posted by baseball55 on April 4, 2015, at 18:59:49
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 3, 2015, at 16:34:47
> my cognitive skills really, are not good, to read a book intensly ahd have incredible anxiety while reading it to get it finished, thats a ship with water running on board
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> thanks for your response though....In other words, thanks but no thanks for any suggestions you gave. Typical response from you. I wonder why you bother to post at all?
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 5, 2015, at 0:31:27
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 3, 2015, at 16:34:47
no, thats not how i ment it, i wrote it when i was in the computer claass, i heard your suggestions, and i did it, even though what im saying that i saying i have trouble focusing......
if it was read the wrong way im sorry, what i was just saying, i got it done, and made a sub trail saying i have difficultly focusing......
i didnt mean to end the post with saying "thanks for the response" im sorry thats like a generic way thing i put on my posts when i end them.......it wasnt ment to be saying thanks, but no thanks....
but......it's done now, month left....then maybe ill take take some advanced pc courses...
i guess i could learn a more advanced format how i post here too....,
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 6, 2015, at 14:08:27
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by baseball55 on April 4, 2015, at 18:59:49
why do you have cold feelings about me?
Posted by baseball55 on April 7, 2015, at 19:58:32
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 6, 2015, at 14:08:27
> why do you have cold feelings about me?
I don't have cold feelings about you, RJ, but I find you exasperating. You write these posts that SEEM to be asking for help, advice, support, etc. But in fact, you are just free-associating. Nothing anyone writes or says makes the slightest difference. You just keep posting the same stuff over and over again as if you didn't even read the responses. Like your constant complaint that you are "failing to absorb" psychiatric drugs.
Think for a minute RJ. What do you want here? Do you want support? help? advice? information? Or do you just want to rant on ? You yourself once wondered why people don't reply to your posts. Well, this is why.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 7, 2015, at 23:19:01
In reply to Re: procrastinator » rjlockhart37, posted by baseball55 on April 7, 2015, at 19:58:32
i understand, i do rant, thinking maybe just for a viewer to read, thats kinda what i do, i think there's an audience watching, and ... yea i guess on dr-bob is hoping a person would come rescue me out of my situation, and yes i know how dumb that is, or having a reveal of .. i guess who i am, but it's too much.....victim mentality, and the only audience is couple posters, not the whole world tuning in to rj's posts for a tv show every night at 8pm
im medicore at helping others, good at times, but being a example myself to back it up is not so good....i understand your for viewpoint.....and thank you for being honest, maybe self development from being a victim is another road to after
r
Posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2015, at 2:40:16
In reply to Re: procrastinator » rjlockhart37, posted by baseball55 on April 7, 2015, at 19:58:32
> You write these posts that SEEM to be asking for help, advice, support, etc. But in fact, you are just free-associating. Nothing anyone writes or says makes the slightest difference. You just keep posting the same stuff over and over again as if you didn't even read the responses.
Sounds like me. Sometimes, at least.
I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking for, either.
Posted by baseball55 on April 8, 2015, at 18:59:47
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2015, at 2:40:16
> > You write these posts that SEEM to be asking for help, advice, support, etc. But in fact, you are just free-associating. Nothing anyone writes or says makes the slightest difference. You just keep posting the same stuff over and over again as if you didn't even read the responses.
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> Sounds like me. Sometimes, at least.
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> I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking for, either.
>
Well, I guess we all have our schticks
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Posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2015, at 22:02:05
In reply to Re: procrastinator » alexandra_k, posted by baseball55 on April 8, 2015, at 18:59:47
yeah.
I'm not sure what to post to rj much of the time, either.
sometimes i try and reach out to him and it is like i reach right past him, or something, and he continues on his merry way, and i may as well have not posted at all.
sometimes i get frustrated with him and post something... from frustration. not much good ever seems to come of that.
sometimes i just... feel a connection with him in some way. resonate, or something. post from there. and we actually connect for a moment there.
i feel like that about my posts / people responding to my posts, too.
i'm not sure what i'm looking for, mostly. well... actually... i think i am. peace of mind. not entirely sure how to obtain it mostly, though.
Posted by baseball55 on April 10, 2015, at 20:19:09
In reply to Re: procrastinator » baseball55, posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2015, at 22:02:05
> i feel like that about my posts / people responding to my posts, too.
>
> i'm not sure what i'm looking for, mostly. well... actually... i think i am. peace of mind. not entirely sure how to obtain it mostly, though.I always read your posts though, Alex. And when people respond to you, you reply to their responses in a manner that indicates you've at least considered what they had to say. Which is all anyone can do or ask really. I mean some posts are clear-cut requests for info - did anyone have these side-effects from prozac, or is my response to therapy normal, stuff like that. But a lot of posts are just checking in, making connections. Which is great.
My issue with RJ is that he doesn't make connections because he doesn't respond back to or seem to take into consideration any responses to his posts. Which is why people usually don't respond to him.
But people do reply to you because you seem to be asking for connection.
Posted by alexandra_k on April 10, 2015, at 21:30:21
In reply to Re: procrastinator » alexandra_k, posted by baseball55 on April 10, 2015, at 20:19:09
> But people do reply to you because you seem to be asking for connection.sometimes... but sometimes not. i mean... i do go on these rants / speels sometimes... any number of posts long...
a kind of a working through, or something.
and sometimes... sometimes i am hoping for a response from bob in particular. i try not to get my hopes up.. and i do feel bad about it.. because i know we are meant to be interacting with each other... but sometimes i do hope to get a response from him in particular, yeah.
i'm not entirely sure what i'm saying...
i remember people having a hard time with deneb's posts because they thought she wanted something... advice or something. but then she would ignore it if they tried to offer some. some people have had a hard time with me at various points for similar reasons... and people have a hard time with lou... and with rj sometimes...
i don't know what i'm saying. i guess... i've found some kind of peace in myself in mostly not reading lous posts (sorry, nothing personal i just simply can't parse them most of the time) and mostly not responding to rj's posts (sorry, nothing personal, i just simply don't have anything to say that i haven't said already to them much of the time)...
anyway...
peace etc.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 11, 2015, at 13:51:56
In reply to Re: procrastinator » alexandra_k, posted by baseball55 on April 10, 2015, at 20:19:09
i do respond to posts, i reponded to this post and previous ones also....not all the time but i respond, .... look at the reponses i have on the social and psych boards......
maybe im saying it in manner to totally connect, but there are alot of posters that yea....respond back, but i think the issue with what people don't with me is they can't relate, and take that as not connecting or responding......
i help people on the psych boards and alot of things.....you need to look at my responses on all the boards, i know some are irritating because i ranted on and on, but .... it's not a major issue for not totally action on advice, plentyyy of posters post for social reasons.....maybe mine are just not so relatable, which maybe im unique and annoying....
so.....just had to correct that viewpoint.....
r
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 11, 2015, at 14:00:02
In reply to Re: procrastinator » baseball55, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 11, 2015, at 13:51:56
and other people have similar issues, but it seems it's my postings that are under a magnifying glass being weeded out with a red pen.......and others get stars and smiley faces for approval.....not sure if this is social thing with weeding out outsiders......im not a outsider, you need to see my responses, i know there's some that i did not do anything but i don't want to be under a magnifying glass.....while others are praised, im not a scapegoat
so.....thats kinda what im seeing with my case.....
Posted by alexandra_k on April 11, 2015, at 16:24:25
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 11, 2015, at 14:00:02
You're alright rj. I guess what I hear Baseball saying is that she tried to connect with you because she thought you were seeking connection. But she felt like you eere disconnected from her response / dismissive of her attempt.
Take it as a compliment,in other words.
I know I need to remember,sometimes, to nurture the responses that I get. Especially when I'm feeling lonely and want to get responses.
I'm sure you know how it feels to put in time and mental effort to respond to someone and then they ignore you / seem to blow you off.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 11, 2015, at 17:39:51
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by alexandra_k on April 11, 2015, at 16:24:25
yes....and i learned from the post that i should not write a post, too much, and then have a generic response, like thank you, and then "r" at the end......
seriously bb55 has a good view point, and i've seen the posts, has expereince, and a higher view point, i'm only 27, and soemtimes i admit i act younger....10 years younger......even the posts i posted when i was 17 here on babble.....i've changed alot to hear more insight from people.....maybe not my life situation is better, but my learning to connect is better.....i was arrogant when i was 17 10 years ago......
bb55 did give a viewpoint, and it's not only on dr-bob, family members, friends, have all had simmilar reponses to me asking for help or advice, and i waste their time......
i don't want to cause friction, and dislike between people, i just simply post, and sometimes post things people want to hear, and hide my real feelings under it.....
Posted by alexandra_k on April 11, 2015, at 22:35:05
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 11, 2015, at 17:39:51
> i don't want to cause friction, and dislike between people, i just simply post, and sometimes post things people want to hear, and hide my real feelings under it.....maybe you post what you *think* people want to hear. and... your not posting your real feelings is what has people feel that you aren't connecting with / responding to them. even though they have genuinely tried to connect to you in responding to you.
Posted by baseball55 on April 12, 2015, at 19:45:02
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 11, 2015, at 17:39:51
> bb55 did give a viewpoint, and it's not only on dr-bob, family members, friends, have all had simmilar reponses to me asking for help or advice, and i waste their time......
Well people get exasperated when someone asks for help or advice and then ignores any help or advice given and/or gets defensive and starts explaining why the help/advice won't, in fact help.
Let me give you some examples, RJ, from over the years.
(1) You complain that something is wrong with your body and it won't absorb drugs and that you need some sort of test of absorption, etc. I and others say it doesn't work that way. If you weren't absorbing drugs, you wouldn't be absorbing nutrients either and, unless you're wasting away, you are absorbing nutrients, so you are absorbing drugs. You just aren't responding to them - welcome to the world of psych drugs.
Your response. Ignore posts and continue posting for months about your failure to "absorb" drugs.
(2) Constant complaints that your brain isn't "firing" properly, that you need ECT. I and others tell you that, if there were an electrical disturbance in your brain, you would be having seizures and that would show up on an EEG. Your response? Ignore all replies and continue posting about your brain's electrical problems and need for ECT for months.
(3) For years now, you have complained about your p-doc, who insists you take drugs that don't help you, who diagnoses you with illnesses you don't have, who refuses you stimulants to manage ADHD. People urge you to find another p-doc. Your response? Silence, mostly, with the occasional, and rare reply, about "someone" who won't let you change p-docs.
(4) And everyone knows that that someone is your mother. So I and others ask, why don't you move out? I mean, you're not 17 anymore. Your response? Mostly silence. An occasional, and rare, post about how you need to change your life.
(5) And in these posts, you spin thoughts about changes that are so large they sound completely unrealistic. I reply that maybe you should start small, with realistic, manageable goals. Your response? Silence.
I could go on, but I won't. I'm sorry if this offends or upsets you, RJ. But you need to take a look at yourself.
Posted by baseball55 on April 12, 2015, at 20:02:48
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 11, 2015, at 17:39:51
I'll add one more thing, RJ, and I hope you won't find it too harsh. I have read your posts over the years (I have checked into this board for about nine years) and feel you have gradually begun to pathologize yourself and convince yourself that you are depressed/psychotic, whatever. I think your mother and p-doc enable this. I think you indulge yourself in the occasional rant about Satan to convince yourself that you are mentally ill. By being mentally ill, you can stay snuggled up in your little cocoon, where you don't have to take responsibility for yourself.
I don't think you are mentally ill at all. I think you are bored and alone and would improve rapidly and dramatically if you made a serious effort to leave home and find something to do that really engaged you (and no, I don't mean these computer courses you take, which seem to hold no interest for you at all). I think your initial assessment of yourself when you started posting here was correct - you have ADHD, but abuse stimulants.
Since you can't treat your ADHD with stimulants, you need to find non-medication ways to treat it. Therapy - for you, I would recommend group therapy, because I can't see you interacting with a therapist one-on-one except in this pathologized role you've taken on; exercise, meditation, support groups. Look it up on the web. I'm sure there are a number of methods by which people have managed, if not overcome, ADHD who, for whatever reasons, could not use stimulants.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 12, 2015, at 20:57:42
In reply to Re: procrastinator » rjlockhart37, posted by baseball55 on April 12, 2015, at 19:45:02
i don't like to waste people's time, so the best is not blabbing about things, keep it until ready to make a change, and i know that i talk and don't do.....
but sometimes the suggestions, mainly about the medication situation don't work, i've done vitamen D......it's only gonna be helped through spiritual healing, doctors don't think it's a problem, so just study about the spirit relm
but ... not sure, i'm freaking lost in what i should do, everything seems freaking hard....with new problems coming up with health and getting into vary dark moods.....
i will listen to advice, not sure about right now, because i admit i am a mess.....i do things impulsivly, lose keys, forget, dark depression, it all rotates and seems over whelming......
and even when someone does give help i think the it's unsolvable, too many complications
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 12, 2015, at 21:17:17
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 12, 2015, at 20:57:42
ok....im gonna give it some time, if i am going to do something about my situation, ill have to be ready to serious, and not a indulgance in my own thoughts......
i am seeing a counselor right now but i havent seen him in a while.....try to figure this, groups at the college i go too...maybe i get in.....work from there.....i am just so lost.....and seems everything is doom gloom, snap out of it.....
Posted by baseball55 on April 15, 2015, at 19:46:54
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 12, 2015, at 21:17:17
> i am seeing a counselor right now but i havent seen him in a while.....try to figure this, groups at the college i go too...maybe i get in.....work from there.....i am just so lost.....and seems everything is doom gloom, snap out of it.....
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No, RJ. Don't snap out of it. If we could snap out of these things at will, we would. But we can't. The key is to ask for help. But to ask for help, you have to be willing to accept help. You tend to say things like this - okay, I will get myself together, I just have to snap out of it, change everything, etc. As if this were all in your control.Think about it, RJ. If it were in your control, would you still be fighting distress and confusion and living at home and writing to babble after 10 years. It's not in your control. Seek help. Get counseling. Ask for help from babble. Ask friends for help with things you need - rides, studying, companionship, advice, whatever.
Learn the humility to accept help and not feel that you have to say - ok, I can do it myself. You ask for help then, when given help here on babble, you say - thanks, I'll take care of it myself. This makes people you ask feel useless and used and leaves you without the help you need and crave.
Ask for help and humbly accept help that's given. The key to happiness.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 15, 2015, at 23:18:16
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by baseball55 on April 15, 2015, at 19:46:54
yea....it's like....i do ask for help, some people will be open, other's won't, start using the outside resources, living with a friend i could do....i would have re work my social output to who im living with, and get along. It just comes to me like what do it do....who do i call, where do i go......who do i tell....
i'm in school.....i have a internship, but it's not job related, it's in a office doing stuff, for a program im in, and....besides that things are settled like they are, until i get a car which i hope i do.......
i don't think it's considerate to ask for help and then think about it, a fire under me would make me do it, comfort is what keeps things at bay......
right now i don't work, im in school with the small internship, to have a job to full for my own place would be full time, and i would really have a hard time to get to technical school.....
but i don't want to post and rant and i don't want to write all this and not do anything....keeping it at bay, moving slowly, no wheels right now, when i do get wheels, of coruse a job is income, but i couldnt do it and get my degree with in a short period of time.....
ill ask some people in this program im in, and the internship......it's all about the money income, if that problem was not there, i would be long gone.....i need wheels, hopefully it will come soon....can't borrow the car from my parents all the time
i'll initiate a venture out soon....look into a group......
but thank you for writing your imput, i read it and at least know someone knows whats going on with me......thats a relief in itself....
Posted by baseball55 on April 16, 2015, at 19:30:10
In reply to Re: procrastinator, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 15, 2015, at 23:18:16
I really feel for you RJ. The logistics of your situation are hard and you need to plan fairly long-term to find your way out on your own, which is frustrating to think about. But if you can share honestly what's going on with you and respond honestly to those who reach out to you, things will get better. At least you can find some emotional support which can never hurt.
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