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Posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
Hi folks,I've been thinking about being the only over-sea foreigner on this board ... and i don't like that.
I'm probably getting too paranoid about this, but
I feel like i'm not fitting in, that this is not the place for me, etc...
May be the hot weather is to blame, depression getting worse because of that etc...nonetheless, i feel judged somehow: i know i shouldn't feel like that: most of you folks have been kind to me, but i'm scared about the stereotype kind of thing.(Do you know what i mean?) My nation is not very well seen world wide (mafia and things like that) so i wonder how you guys are depicting me inside your heads: you know: the italian stereotype: short, fat and black haired holding a guitar in my hand singing "sole mio" and stuff like that.
I know, it's a mind trip (a bad one!).
Posted by Greg on July 16, 2001, at 13:26:05
In reply to Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
Hi Anna Laura
I can assure you that you're not the only one here from another country. A few of my very best friends here are from Canada, England, Australia and Germany. I come from California which, depending on who you ask, is it's own unique little country... :)
I've been here at PB for over a year and a half, and often times I don't feel like I belong either. It's not unusual to feel that way. Don't let that get you down. And if anyone here decides they don't like you because of stereotypes then you don't want them as a friend anyway.
I hope you keep talking to us.
Be well,
Greg> Hi folks,
>
> I've been thinking about being the only over-sea foreigner on this board ... and i don't like that.
> I'm probably getting too paranoid about this, but
> I feel like i'm not fitting in, that this is not the place for me, etc...
> May be the hot weather is to blame, depression getting worse because of that etc...nonetheless, i feel judged somehow: i know i shouldn't feel like that: most of you folks have been kind to me, but i'm scared about the stereotype kind of thing.(Do you know what i mean?) My nation is not very well seen world wide (mafia and things like that) so i wonder how you guys are depicting me inside your heads: you know: the italian stereotype: short, fat and black haired holding a guitar in my hand singing "sole mio" and stuff like that.
> I know, it's a mind trip (a bad one!).
Posted by Roo on July 16, 2001, at 13:49:10
In reply to Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
If anything I picture you as glamorous and exotic!
But thanks for making me laugh! I always enjoy
you and your posts. I think you're great. Don't
worry, it's just a bad day.
Posted by AKC on July 16, 2001, at 14:05:55
In reply to Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
Without getting too carried away . . .
I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope, that you will feel as I have since I made my post - I so needed the positive affirmations on my bad day. As Roo said, it is a bad day - and we all have them - and we deserve the support we can get here. You so much fit in here - and I would hate to see you go. And I hope that you will find as people respond to your post that you are wanted here and cared for. Be the star for today - You deserve it!
Your resident hounddog.
Posted by kid_A on July 16, 2001, at 14:15:58
In reply to Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
Italian eh? Im italian and Ukranian, I wish that I was full blood Italian, but theres not much I can do about that now... !!!I think there are plenty other 'foreigners' whatever that means here... It doesn't really matter where everyone is from, because all of us are right here... I feel like I live on another planet so basically I feel like I'm invading other people's turf every day...
Relax, we're all in this together. :)
Posted by tina on July 16, 2001, at 14:44:22
In reply to Re: Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Greg on July 16, 2001, at 13:26:05
"A few of my very best friends here are from Canada, England, Australia and Germany."
***Austria Greg, Laxenburg is in Austria
Had to rib ya -- just a little.
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I've been thinking about being the only over-sea foreigner on this board ... and i don't like that.
> > I'm probably getting too paranoid about this, but
> > I feel like i'm not fitting in, that this is not the place for me, etc...
> > May be the hot weather is to blame, depression getting worse because of that etc...nonetheless, i feel judged somehow: i know i shouldn't feel like that: most of you folks have been kind to me, but i'm scared about the stereotype kind of thing.(Do you know what i mean?) My nation is not very well seen world wide (mafia and things like that) so i wonder how you guys are depicting me inside your heads: you know: the italian stereotype: short, fat and black haired holding a guitar in my hand singing "sole mio" and stuff like that.
> > I know, it's a mind trip (a bad one!).
Posted by tina on July 16, 2001, at 14:47:44
In reply to Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
Anna Laura, like Greg said, you are NOT the only over-sea poster, not by a long shot. It's one of the things I like about this board, it's so diversified. Please stay. Post when you are feeling out of place and I guarantee alot of responses just like the ones you have here. We all have our troubles and can share them here no matter where we come from or what language we speak. I hope you stick around.
tina
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been thinking about being the only over-sea foreigner on this board ... and i don't like that.
> I'm probably getting too paranoid about this, but
> I feel like i'm not fitting in, that this is not the place for me, etc...
> May be the hot weather is to blame, depression getting worse because of that etc...nonetheless, i feel judged somehow: i know i shouldn't feel like that: most of you folks have been kind to me, but i'm scared about the stereotype kind of thing.(Do you know what i mean?) My nation is not very well seen world wide (mafia and things like that) so i wonder how you guys are depicting me inside your heads: you know: the italian stereotype: short, fat and black haired holding a guitar in my hand singing "sole mio" and stuff like that.
> I know, it's a mind trip (a bad one!).
Posted by mist on July 16, 2001, at 15:02:10
In reply to Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
Anna Laura,
I’m very glad someone from Europe is posting on this board and that there are other posters from outside of the US.
It gets kind of claustrophobic being in the US all the time so it’s good to hear about the experiences and perspectives (on mental health matters or anything else) of people from all over the world.
And you don’t come across as being in any significant way “different” from anyone else here, except in the sense that we’re all unique individuals.
-mist
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been thinking about being the only over-sea foreigner on this board ... and i don't like that.
> I'm probably getting too paranoid about this, but
> I feel like i'm not fitting in, that this is not the place for me, etc...
> May be the hot weather is to blame, depression getting worse because of that etc...nonetheless, i feel judged somehow: i know i shouldn't feel like that: most of you folks have been kind to me, but i'm scared about the stereotype kind of thing.(Do you know what i mean?) My nation is not very well seen world wide (mafia and things like that) so i wonder how you guys are depicting me inside your heads: you know: the italian stereotype: short, fat and black haired holding a guitar in my hand singing "sole mio" and stuff like that.
> I know, it's a mind trip (a bad one!).
Posted by susan C on July 16, 2001, at 17:04:55
In reply to Re: Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by mist on July 16, 2001, at 15:02:10
Your post (here I go again glen fagelson, good dog) and the responses made me think of a comment that comedians sometimes use, 'Some of my best friends are black..'
I am having a mad bad crazy manic days, this made me smile. I am going to go clean something. No judge here...'here come da judge'
> Anna Laura,
>
> I’m very glad someone from Europe is posting on this board and that there are other posters from outside of the US.
>
> It gets kind of claustrophobic being in the US all the time so it’s good to hear about the experiences and perspectives (on mental health matters or anything else) of people from all over the world.
>
> And you don’t come across as being in any significant way “different” from anyone else here, except in the sense that we’re all unique individuals.
>
> -mist
>
>
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I've been thinking about being the only over-sea foreigner on this board ... and i don't like that.
> > I'm probably getting too paranoid about this, but
> > I feel like i'm not fitting in, that this is not the place for me, etc...
> > May be the hot weather is to blame, depression getting worse because of that etc...nonetheless, i feel judged somehow: i know i shouldn't feel like that: most of you folks have been kind to me, but i'm scared about the stereotype kind of thing.(Do you know what i mean?) My nation is not very well seen world wide (mafia and things like that) so i wonder how you guys are depicting me inside your heads: you know: the italian stereotype: short, fat and black haired holding a guitar in my hand singing "sole mio" and stuff like that.
> > I know, it's a mind trip (a bad one!).
Posted by NikkiT2 on July 16, 2001, at 18:12:06
In reply to Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
I'm in the UK, os that a foreigner too??
Isn;t this jyust the beauty of the net... I now have wonderful friends all over the world!!!
I am actually meeting a friend I have had online for 5 years! We are going to be partying hard I think!! i also met my husband on line... luclkily we were only 2 hours apart!! I have met the most wobderful, wonderful people in the world on the net... OK, some I may only know them by what they write and their photos, but I love them the same as if they were my non-cyber world. They are all over the world, and I love that.
Nikki xxxx
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been thinking about being the only over-sea foreigner on this board ... and i don't like that.
> I'm probably getting too paranoid about this, but
> I feel like i'm not fitting in, that this is not the place for me, etc...
> May be the hot weather is to blame, depression getting worse because of that etc...nonetheless, i feel judged somehow: i know i shouldn't feel like that: most of you folks have been kind to me, but i'm scared about the stereotype kind of thing.(Do you know what i mean?) My nation is not very well seen world wide (mafia and things like that) so i wonder how you guys are depicting me inside your heads: you know: the italian stereotype: short, fat and black haired holding a guitar in my hand singing "sole mio" and stuff like that.
> I know, it's a mind trip (a bad one!).
Posted by Glenn Fagelson on July 16, 2001, at 23:27:11
In reply to Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been thinking about being the only over-sea foreigner on this board ... and i don't like that.
> I'm probably getting too paranoid about this, but
> I feel like i'm not fitting in, that this is not the place for me, etc...
> May be the hot weather is to blame, depression getting worse because of that etc...nonetheless, i feel judged somehow: i know i shouldn't feel like that: most of you folks have been kind to me, but i'm scared about the stereotype kind of thing.(Do you know what i mean?) My nation is not very well seen world wide (mafia and things like that) so i wonder how you guys are depicting me inside your heads: you know: the italian stereotype: short, fat and black haired holding a guitar in my hand singing "sole mio" and stuff like that.
> I know, it's a mind trip (a bad one!).Dear Anna Laura,
Please, please continue to post on this
board! A number of individuals here have
given you some very nice and positive
feedback; I hope you will take it to your
heart. I have read some of your posts and
have found nothing unusual about them.
Every human being is precious and valuable,
including you.Hang in here,
Glenn
Posted by Cass on July 17, 2001, at 0:45:53
In reply to Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 16, 2001, at 12:53:30
Argh!!! Rest assured, none of those sterotypes EVER crossed my mind! You fit in fine.
Posted by Anna Laura on July 17, 2001, at 5:39:39
In reply to Re: Not fitting in: now it's my turn » Anna Laura, posted by Glenn Fagelson on July 16, 2001, at 23:27:11
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I've been thinking about being the only over-sea foreigner on this board ... and i don't like that.
> > I'm probably getting too paranoid about this, but
> > I feel like i'm not fitting in, that this is not the place for me, etc...
> > May be the hot weather is to blame, depression getting worse because of that etc...nonetheless, i feel judged somehow: i know i shouldn't feel like that: most of you folks have been kind to me, but i'm scared about the stereotype kind of thing.(Do you know what i mean?) My nation is not very well seen world wide (mafia and things like that) so i wonder how you guys are depicting me inside your heads: you know: the italian stereotype: short, fat and black haired holding a guitar in my hand singing "sole mio" and stuff like that.
> > I know, it's a mind trip (a bad one!).
>
> Dear Anna Laura,
>
> Please, please continue to post on this
> board! A number of individuals here have
> given you some very nice and positive
> feedback; I hope you will take it to your
> heart. I have read some of your posts and
> have found nothing unusual about them.
> Every human being is precious and valuable,
> including you.
>
> Hang in here,
> GlennDon't you worry: i'm going to stay. Thanks for answering though. Thanks to Roo, AKC, NIkki, Glenn, everybody on this board.
I think most of you all guys found my words misleading: i wasn't going to leave, i just wanted to express my feelings, kind of needed to get a feed-back about it. I did. So everything it's o.k.
I love being on this board; i enjoy your company here even if i can't see anybody of you. Thanks again for your support.
Roo: i'm glad i made you laugh!Anna Laura
Posted by Wendy B. on July 18, 2001, at 23:54:51
In reply to Re: Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 17, 2001, at 5:39:39
> Don't you worry: i'm going to stay. Thanks for answering though. Thanks to Roo, AKC, NIkki, Glenn, everybody on this board.
> I think most of you all guys found my words misleading: i wasn't going to leave, i just wanted to express my feelings, kind of needed to get a feed-back about it. I did. So everything it's o.k.
> I love being on this board; i enjoy your company here even if i can't see anybody of you. Thanks again for your support.
> Roo: i'm glad i made you laugh!
>
> Anna Laura
Dear Anna Laura,
Sorry to be so late in responding, but you are a very wonderful presence on this board, and have had some marvelous insights and beautiful things to say, and express yourself so well... In other posts, you apologize for your writing because english isn't your native tongue, but your written english is better than the majority of americans. So no more apologies!
As for looks, I think we all picture each other as we read each others' thoughts and writing, and I did picture you with dark hair, but that's my problem, you're probably fair and from Milano, or something. Anyway, very educated and beautiful...And I know what it's like being 'different,' I think we all have days (or weeks, or months) of feeling like outsiders.
My mother's side of the family is Italian (her mother was from Roma, her father from the Abruzzi region); she was born in america. My brother and sister and I looked like the kids from Mars to the people in the area where we grew up, a farming region in NY state. We were dark-brown-haired, and in summer, we got very brown-skinned, too. Everyone around us in our town were white, protestant, blonde farmers... It really bothered me at times, and I'm an american... but I didn't fit in, in a lot of ways...
Plus, I think depression isolates us and keeps us wondering about what everyone's thinking of us. The other day my therapist and I both came to the conclusion that no one is looking at us as much as we think they are...! And certainly no one on this board is judging you, at least not harshly...Ciao, bella,
Wendy
Posted by sar on July 19, 2001, at 13:35:19
In reply to Re: Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 17, 2001, at 5:39:39
Dear Anna Laura,
Sorry to join in late too, I've been trying to catch up on some of the more recent threads.
I've enjoyed your posts very much, and contrary to your fears, have imagined you more as a rebellious hipster Patti Hearst type.
Your English is very beautiful--it seems to me that when non-native English speakers speak/write in English, it comes out very artistically.
In fact, if I had you here in front of me, I would make you say "cappuccino" and "espresso" over and over to hear you pull the u's and trill the r's.
hope you are doing well, principessa!
sar
Posted by Anna Laura on July 22, 2001, at 8:38:50
In reply to Re: Not fitting in: now it's my turn » Anna Laura, posted by Wendy B. on July 18, 2001, at 23:54:51
>
> > Don't you worry: i'm going to stay. Thanks for answering though. Thanks to Roo, AKC, NIkki, Glenn, everybody on this board.
> > I think most of you all guys found my words misleading: i wasn't going to leave, i just wanted to express my feelings, kind of needed to get a feed-back about it. I did. So everything it's o.k.
> > I love being on this board; i enjoy your company here even if i can't see anybody of you. Thanks again for your support.
> > Roo: i'm glad i made you laugh!
> >
> > Anna Laura
>
>
> Dear Anna Laura,
> Sorry to be so late in responding, but you are a very wonderful presence on this board, and have had some marvelous insights and beautiful things to say, and express yourself so well... In other posts, you apologize for your writing because english isn't your native tongue, but your written english is better than the majority of americans. So no more apologies!
> As for looks, I think we all picture each other as we read each others' thoughts and writing, and I did picture you with dark hair, but that's my problem, you're probably fair and from Milano, or something. Anyway, very educated and beautiful...
>
> And I know what it's like being 'different,' I think we all have days (or weeks, or months) of feeling like outsiders.
> My mother's side of the family is Italian (her mother was from Roma, her father from the Abruzzi region); she was born in america. My brother and sister and I looked like the kids from Mars to the people in the area where we grew up, a farming region in NY state. We were dark-brown-haired, and in summer, we got very brown-skinned, too. Everyone around us in our town were white, protestant, blonde farmers... It really bothered me at times, and I'm an american... but I didn't fit in, in a lot of ways...
> Plus, I think depression isolates us and keeps us wondering about what everyone's thinking of us. The other day my therapist and I both came to the conclusion that no one is looking at us as much as we think they are...! And certainly no one on this board is judging you, at least not harshly...
>
> Ciao, bella,
> Wendy
Ciao WendyThanks for answering (thanks to Sar also).
We have all kind of different ethnics here in Italy.
My ancestors were Normans, Celtic, Africans and Scandinavian (they left Danmark searching for some land and they ended up founding a colony in Italy during the Middle Age). My father looks Nothern European (light blue eyes and blond hair) whereas my uncle on my mother's side looks like a Norhern African from the desert zones, Southern Africans call them "pearls" (dark skin, dark curly hair, very tall, but caucasian looking).
I'm a mixture of the two: i'm an afro-scandinavian i guess. (very strange mixture indeed).
Posted by Wendy B. on July 23, 2001, at 2:36:43
In reply to Re: Not fitting in: now it's my turn, posted by Anna Laura on July 22, 2001, at 8:38:50
>
> Ciao Wendy
>
> Thanks for answering (thanks to Sar also).
> We have all kind of different ethnics here in Italy.
> My ancestors were Normans, Celtic, Africans and Scandinavian (they left Danmark searching for some land and they ended up founding a colony in Italy during the Middle Age). My father looks Nothern European (light blue eyes and blond hair) whereas my uncle on my mother's side looks like a Norhern African from the desert zones, Southern Africans call them "pearls" (dark skin, dark curly hair, very tall, but caucasian looking).
> I'm a mixture of the two: i'm an afro-scandinavian i guess. (very strange mixture indeed).
..... beautiful! The way these things come about is so fascinating...
W.
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