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Posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 15:42:01
when i started looking for a new T i did a bunch of research and that was how i found out about transference. so when i met my new T i asked him questions about his practice and CBT in general. he very quickly understood that i wantd to understand the process and would look stuff up anyway so he told me to have a look at schema therapy and tell him what i thought.
i found lots of stuff and right now i am reading an online version of a book meant for training T's.
www.therapist-training.com.au/young.pdfHas anyone here been in schema therapy?
it was developed for personality disorders but this book says it can be used for a variety of things. It grew out of CBT but it incorporates some psychodynamic and gestalt. It can be short or long, depending on what is needed, but it's generally mid-range.
i am not sure what to think. it seems heavily connected with personality disorders and it makes me worry that he thinks i have one. i don't. i even asked my pdoc that question. That isn't meant to offend any people with a PD, but if he thinks that then he is misreading me and that worries me.
i would really appreciate any feedback on schema...also called CBT-S
thanks
Posted by Dinah on March 29, 2007, at 16:59:05
In reply to schema therapy, posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 15:42:01
I'm in trouble at work, too. :( So I didn't have time to do more than skim part of it.
It looks interesting. I'm familiar with some of the concepts, perhaps described a bit differently.
I wouldn't worry too much about the personality disorders. If this is the form of therapy he uses, then it's because he endorses the concepts and finds them helpful. I'm sure he has the same overall orientation for everyone.
Besides, personality disorders are only ends of a spectrum that everyone is on. It's only a "disorder" if it causes problems to the client. So wouldn't what helps those on the edges of a spectrum help those all along the line?
I still think they ought to change the name though. "Personality disorders" or "characterological disorders" is enough to make anyone angry on being labelled with them. I personally prefer "characteristic coping styles" or something like that.
Posted by canadagirl on March 29, 2007, at 17:28:32
In reply to schema therapy, posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 15:42:01
Love it, love it. Had a counsellor who practiced it, however can't find a schema therapist here in Ontario. I know there is a wonderful one in Quebec. I am not in Quebec unfortunately. If you know where there are any others in canada pls babble mail me!
It's not "just" for personality disorders, I've never been diagnosed with one. It's for anyone really, who finds themselves in negative thought patterns and wants to break free. As well as the heavier stuff such as abuse, etc. it's all covered. It was originally designed for personality disorders, but has shown excellent results for a lot of other things too. I think you'll really like it as it concentrates on the relationship too between client and therapist.
Posted by scentedgarden on March 29, 2007, at 17:56:29
In reply to schema therapy, posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 15:42:01
hi gazo...sori i cant give much at the mo, as im hurting so badly today. However i read ur post wi interest as ive been doing schema for 4 yrs... with no diagnosis whatsoever...weird i know but she (my t) never labeled me wi anything... Still I have been doing this work supposedly...but we went way off the rails and it's all been f8cked up as u may know if u read my posts lately...so i wont bore u wi any of that.. I simply have a question relating to the www. link that you give...as i have just finished reading it (62 pages) and wonder if you know the exact book it is from as it appears to be an extract of chapter one... I appreciate it is a book for therapist in training and therefore those are usually far biger, and more expensive books. I just wanted to try to find out the authors anme and if at all the title of the book...
ps dont let wot i said put u off...i think its a great therapy if donr correctly...sadly i fell in love and she was unable to process my emotional shcemas and its alla mess now ... i have to stop there or i will say somehting ot fitting for this thread...
pps. sori ive not been intouch b4 now...im just in way too much pain to be able to help anyone >
sorry as u seem really nice and id like to have been more of a poster and help...but i cant hardlt think straight anymore ...my emotions are so shot to pieces....
still here i am reading scema focused therapy...and trying to find out more and what should have happened instead of the sh*t that did between her and me...
on a positive note - when i went to therpay 4 yrs ago she asked me to buy the book called 'Reinventing your life'..its by Young.
easy to find on amazon and designed for the lay person and therapist alike... I got a small paper back copy...just a pity we never stuck to it instead of getting embroiled in her... and she did sweet f*ck all to stop me getting embroiled ... whoops wrong post... sorry!!! so sorry everyone for this am a heap of garbage today.. sg
Posted by canadagirl on March 29, 2007, at 18:44:14
In reply to Re: schema therapy, posted by scentedgarden on March 29, 2007, at 17:56:29
I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience with your therapist (esp. a schema therapist) that's really awful but usually the people trained in it are pretty good. Here's the link to the book gazo's excerpt is from "Schema Therapy" and "Reinventing Your Life" I've read RYL, it's good although it's a quite the Oprah title. I mean, how much more dramatic best-seller could they name it.
Posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 18:50:34
In reply to Re: schema therapy » gazo, posted by canadagirl on March 29, 2007, at 17:28:32
that is awesome to hear.. i am reading reading reading. it's sounds exciting and scary all at once.
i found this site:
http://www.drdandalton.com/findtherapist.htmlwhich has an interactive map so you search by region. it even shows photos. don't know if that will help.
Posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 18:57:21
In reply to Re: schema therapy, posted by scentedgarden on March 29, 2007, at 17:56:29
i am so very very sorry SG. if you have been reading you know i understand the transference/love issue. it hurts like hell. i am sorry your T did not do her job.. if she was working with schema then she should have been really getting it that your love for her was probably a schema result. That is her fault, not yours ok?
i wish i knew how either of us could stop hurting.
you can post anything you like in this thread or any other i start. i don't mind, honest. i like to talk to people. and besides, we can bore each other? (joking!)
i will check for the book and get back to you..
Posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 18:58:56
In reply to Re: schema therapy » scentedgarden, posted by canadagirl on March 29, 2007, at 18:44:14
Posted by Scentedgarden on March 29, 2007, at 19:08:24
In reply to Re: schema therapy » canadagirl, posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 18:50:34
thx gazo do u want to chat in babble maybe... its 1am here in u.k ..but im awake if u like to ...and if not then maybe some other time...thanks for being so kind to me... i haved no words right now to speak of the pain... fighting her knowing she thinks she is the right one and all he pain is my fault its overwhelming me today i wanted to u know what.... its so awful... im angry, and defeated... and in such pain...sorri i saod that already...im going to have to get anothr song to sing..as im in pain...and you hurt me therapist is falling on deaf ears.... i will seek God. ....bye
Posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 22:02:15
In reply to Re: schema therapy, posted by Scentedgarden on March 29, 2007, at 19:08:24
did i miss you in chat already? i just now got back to my computer, i had a bunch of work to get done. i'm still around for the next while so i will check in chat for you off and on.
i understand sweetie.. it's not exactly the same scenario i know. But i did feel a little manipulated too. he knew for a long time that i was really really attached (i had/have the same feelings that you did)... and he did nothing, he said nothing. i didn't $h1t from shinola about transference.. so i was too mortified to say anything. If he had just said ANYTHING.. it could have done so much.
i am grieving losing him, i am in pain, i miss him, i want him, i am angry at him and i hate myself for it all.
i know he won't miss me. i know he is so busy he won't even think about me. how much of my anger is me? how much of it is legitimately his fault?
i don't know what to say to ease the pain for either one of use, but i do hear your pain. i really do.
Posted by DisTraught on April 4, 2007, at 1:13:00
In reply to schema therapy, posted by gazo on March 29, 2007, at 15:42:01
Wow! Thanks for the tip! Scema therapy is just what I've always been looking for. I'll look around and see what I can find:)
Penny
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