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Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 5:22:24
Hmm.
Hrm.
I hope it goes better than last time. I think part of the problem is that I only see her every two weeks so I feel like I am wasting precious time talking about the weekly stuff... And talking about stuff that I think I've already dealt with (like p-doc).I got another email from washerface.
:-(
I'll send one reply: about how I didn't think that really counted as a session. It is going to be hard... If she feels like I am trying to undermine her then she will feel MAD at me and then... bring on the courts or whatever...The ironic thing is that she said she had informed me prior to the session that she wasn't taking on any more ACC clients. Thats odd because it makes no difference to her money wise. But anyway that is especially odd seeing as she chose to spend the session on the phone to ACC regarding whether they would take me as a client or not. Maybe I'll just tell her that. Have to be careful.
I just remembered about therapy tomorrow.
I'm going to ask her about making a regular time to see her. So that it is easier to remember. And it is also a way of asking her how much we are going to be seeing each other. IMO once per fortnight isn't enough. Especially when we have sessions that leave me feeling like we didn't really do anything and that was kind of unproductive.:-(
I'm getting worried again...
About whether she wants to see me...
Whether she is sick of me but feels sorry for me after so many terminations...
:-(
:-(
Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 6:03:41
In reply to therapy tomorrow, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 5:22:24
>With regards to ACC, I informed you on the phone before you came to see me that I was not taking any more ACC clients.
Then why on earth did you decide to spend the session on the phone to ACC?
And that is kind of my point: we didn't have a session. You didn't ask me anything along the lines of
- why did you want to come and see me?
- what would you like to talk about in the time we have together?
- what would you like to know about me?
- what would you like to tell me about yourself?
I also do not appreciate being pressured to 'perform'. It was at that point that I was seriously beginning to doubt your professionalism and I left - especially if that 'session' is the way you typically conduct first sessions with clients. Especially if that is a fairly reliable indicator of what future sessions would be like.
I'm fairly boggled that you could consider that to be a session. It was a pre-session to find out whether we would be able to work together. Except it wasn't even that because you didn't even conduct it in that manner. I fail to see why I should pay you for wasting both of our time. I have no earthly idea what made you think that it was acceptable to spend the session on the phone. To persistently and repeatedly ask me about abuse. To not ask whether I had anything to say but show rather more interest in whether they had anything to say.
I'm glad the funding didn't come through.
I left that session knowing we wouldn't be able to work together.
Not if that is any indication of the way things are likely to go.
Do whatever you think fair about the money.
I do not think it is fair to charge me for that.
Good day.
Oh well its done now I suppose.
I'm also tempted to write the lady who did the assessment (and recomended her) to tell her my POV and suggest that she not reccomend her to anybody else.
Maybe thats going a bit far...
But I think I could tell her my concerns. I'm sure she'd take what I have to say with a grain of salt anyways. And... She might have heard of somebody else.
Posted by Jazzed on July 11, 2005, at 6:27:04
In reply to Re: too much???, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 6:03:41
> >With regards to ACC, I informed you on the phone before you came to see me that I was not taking any more ACC clients.
>
> Then why on earth did you decide to spend the session on the phone to ACC?
>
> And that is kind of my point: we didn't have a session. You didn't ask me anything along the lines of
> - why did you want to come and see me?
> - what would you like to talk about in the time we have together?
> - what would you like to know about me?
> - what would you like to tell me about yourself?
>
> I also do not appreciate being pressured to 'perform'. It was at that point that I was seriously beginning to doubt your professionalism and I left - especially if that 'session' is the way you typically conduct first sessions with clients. Especially if that is a fairly reliable indicator of what future sessions would be like.
>
> I'm fairly boggled that you could consider that to be a session. It was a pre-session to find out whether we would be able to work together. Except it wasn't even that because you didn't even conduct it in that manner. I fail to see why I should pay you for wasting both of our time. I have no earthly idea what made you think that it was acceptable to spend the session on the phone. To persistently and repeatedly ask me about abuse. To not ask whether I had anything to say but show rather more interest in whether they had anything to say.
>
> I'm glad the funding didn't come through.
> I left that session knowing we wouldn't be able to work together.
> Not if that is any indication of the way things are likely to go.
> Do whatever you think fair about the money.
> I do not think it is fair to charge me for that.
> Good day.
>
I think this sounds really well thought out and really well put together Alexadra. She has a lot of nerve to keep badgering you.
Jazzy
Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 8:00:10
In reply to Re: too much??? » alexandra_k, posted by Jazzed on July 11, 2005, at 6:27:04
it is a little too late to take it back anyway. but then im not afraid to send amendments. thanks for what you said. it means a lot. i really don't know what i'd do without babblers sometimes.
:-)
Posted by Jazzed on July 11, 2005, at 9:28:32
In reply to Re: thank you » Jazzed, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 8:00:10
> it is a little too late to take it back anyway. but then im not afraid to send amendments. thanks for what you said. it means a lot. i really don't know what i'd do without babblers sometimes.
>
> :-)I think what you wrote was great. I wouldn't take any of it back! If she keeps it up, she's just a b*tch! It's so hard when you feel so miserable, and then when the ppl who are supposed to help act so crappy, it makes you feel really alone. She must just be in it for the $. I wouldn't pay someone to sit on the phone a whole appt either! What COULD she be thinking? ARGH!
Stick with your p-doc though! I hope you get to feeling better!
((((hugs))))
Jazzy
Posted by rubenstein on July 11, 2005, at 10:48:51
In reply to therapy tomorrow, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 5:22:24
Good luck, stick to your insights, they are really strong
Take care and I hope it works out
Rachel
Posted by cricket on July 11, 2005, at 11:26:09
In reply to Re: too much???, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 6:03:41
> I also do not appreciate being pressured to 'perform'. It was at that point that I was seriously beginning to doubt your professionalism and I left - especially if that 'session' is the way you typically conduct first sessions with clients. Especially if that is a fairly reliable indicator of what future sessions would be like.
>
Hi Alexandra,I once had a dream about my therapist where it was my session but his office had turned into a stage, and he had a bunch of acquaintances there as actors and audience and he was the director and was quite literally telling me to perform.
I started having a temper tantrum. "This is not what I want to do with my therapy session," and I started stamping my foot. Stage director-therapist said, "Oh good, you dance flamenco too."
This, after years of therapy where we have already built up a bit of an alliance, and I still sometimes feel like a circus animal. At the first session!!! Oh no, your instincts are right.
Let us know how it goes.
Posted by gardenergirl on July 11, 2005, at 13:29:35
In reply to Re: too much???, posted by cricket on July 11, 2005, at 11:26:09
alex,
Good job for expressing yourself. What a lousy way to conduct a first session. So I'm confused because I haven't been following everything...is this the same T you are seeing Wednesday?And yes, whoever you are seeing, it should be very clear between the two of you what the treatment frequency and anticipated duration will be, as well as what type of therapy you will be doing. I hope it becomes a safe and productive place for you.
gg
Posted by Damos on July 11, 2005, at 17:13:54
In reply to Re: too much???, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 6:03:41
I think you did really well with this Alex. Oh yeah and thanks for the 'washerface' image made me smile.
Posted by Damos on July 11, 2005, at 17:30:32
In reply to therapy tomorrow, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 5:22:24
Really hope you have a good session today. She does care Alex and she is probably just as scared as you for very similar reasons.
Trust yourself and your intuition. She does want to work and walk with you. Even when stuff goes wrong try to trust that she has good intentions.
Sending you all the gooderest wishes I can muster
(((((Alex)))))
Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 18:28:53
In reply to Re: thank you » alexandra_k, posted by Jazzed on July 11, 2005, at 9:28:32
> Stick with your p-doc though! I hope you get to feeling better!
He terminated me WAH!!!
No, I'm okay with it really
<snif>
Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 18:32:12
In reply to Re: too much???, posted by gardenergirl on July 11, 2005, at 13:29:35
>...is this the same T you are seeing Wednesday?
Nope. Washerface is the lady who was reccomended in the assessment. The lady I went to see once before I went into hospital. Having issues with her re payment.
The t i'm seeing today is the t from the uni councelling service.
Yeah. I think I do need to try and clarify how often we are going to be seeing each other etc.
What makes it hard is that the uni councelling service usually sees people for a max of three sessions to deal with culture shock, difficulty making friends, exam stress type stuff.
Not mental illness.
And not long term stuff.So it is hard to know how much she knows what she is doing with respect to the latter...
But shes all I've got so we just have to make the most of it.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 18:32:45
In reply to Re: too much??? » gardenergirl, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 18:32:12
For your support.
I'll let ya know how it goes :-)
Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 19:45:13
In reply to Re: thanks everyone, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 18:32:45
thats next week.
two weeks is too long :-(
Posted by kerria on July 12, 2005, at 11:24:04
In reply to therapy tomorrow, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 5:22:24
((((((((((((((((Alexandra)))))))))))))))))))
It's so hard to go two weeks- you're right, it is too long. i hope that you can see T every week and that she's more helpful. i have the trouble of times changing with my T too- he'd schedule me to fit into hospital scehdule a different time and day every week. i'd forget and come at the wrong time(like one time last month). it felt like i was squeezed in, not a 'real' patient.anyways i hope that it is better now with your T. i know how hard it must be. You deserve the best T.
Take care,
kerria
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