![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 14 of 14. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:42
My NHS (UK health service) Pdoc is named Dr Heimas.
He is without a doubt one of the slimiest most duplicitous people I have ever had to deal with.He has reduced me to tears on several occasions, this time its tears of Rage (well almost).
To cut a long story short, he has written lies about me in my hospital record. For example he said that I had a pathological fixation with a previous doctor.
I was upset because the doctor in question had been forced to retire unexpectedly, I saw doctor Heimas the a few days after this happened, no wonder I was upset about it.The last time I saw him I was totally open with him, I told him about the different medications I was on and also informed him that I’d seen a private Pdoc.
He was all smiles, when I suggested Nardil for my social anxiety he said he was OK with it and that he’d write to my GP and let him prescribe it.I saw my GP this morning; he did get a letter from Dr Heimas. Heimas said that he no longer wanted to see me as I was seeing a private doctor.
Heimas hadn’t mentioned that me seeing another doctor was a problem when I met up with him.
Further more He didn’t mention anything about Nardil except that I wanted to try it.Sorry for the rant I just had to get this of my chest.
I think Dr Heimas is probably a good person, but I wish he’d stop playing games with me!
Posted by rod on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:42
In reply to Angry with my Pdoc!, posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 5:39:10
sound bad......
anyway. I want to tell a story when I was in hospital. Like everyone, I also did a lot of psychologic/psychiatric testing, and well, the outcome was, apart from depression, I have *lost contact with reality* 8-Owelll, I am glad the doctor who was assigned to me there didnt believe them and the outcome was it was an error!
I dont want to imagine what would have happened if my doc didnt asked twice..... mybe some haldoperidol, bound to my bed..... yes, thats what I call fun ;D
.....
bye
Posted by xbunny on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Angry with my Pdoc!, posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 5:39:10
Sorry to hear of your plight.
I boggle at how crap the nhs can be at times.
My GP prescribed me pericyazine since I found the chlorpromazine prescribed by my psychiatrist too uncomfortable. A few weeks later I had a review with the psychiatrist (do they just make the dates for the reviews up out of this air? - I had tried to make an appt with the psych to discuss the chlorpromazine and was told there werent any for months!) and made him aware I was taking pericyazine instead, he was fine with it. Since taking the pericyazine I have consistantly had tremors in my legs and some painful spasms and stiffness in various muscles, it doesnt seem to be passing after about a month so I decided to ask the psychiatrist (via the CPN - heavens forbid should one actually get to talk to ones psychiatrist on the phone) if there was anything that could be done about it. His response was that the GP prescribed it so therefore the GP should sort it out. I tried to explain that the GP doesnt know squat about psych meds and will want his advice. I also pointed out that the GP prescribes all my psych meds since the psych can only write one off prescriptions. They were having none of it. So now Im in the stupid situation where the GP will try to pass the buck to the psych and the psych back to the GP. All over a fairly routine script for procyclidine according to my CPN, who whilst being infinately more accessable can affect neither doctor. I just hope on thursday when I see the GP the whole mess isnt replayed continuously. Bunny
Posted by alienatari on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Angry with my Pdoc!, posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 5:39:10
Thats really bad. I cant believe a doctor would do that. Thats so childish. I hope you find a better doctor soon.
take care
Posted by ed_uk on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Angry with my Pdoc!, posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 5:39:10
Hi,
I'm sorry your pdoc treated you so badly- you deserve better.
My pdoc is ill at the moment, I'm not sure when I'll see him. He agreed to see me one more time but doesn't want to see me after that.
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by bimini on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Angry with my Pdoc!, posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 5:39:10
Sorry you hit this egocentric doc, nevertheless one should refrain from disclosing the name and location of aberrants on a public board like this.
Write a letter to correct the misinformation in your file. Then direct your complaint of your treatment in writing to your insurance co and licencing board, whichever works for the UK.
He may not know to be playing games, getting this view from another source may be effective to correct his approach.
bimini
Posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Re: Angry with my Pdoc!, posted by alienatari on April 20, 2005, at 7:23:19
Thanks to everyone who responded
I relate to what Xbunny said about passing the buck. That seems to happen a lot in the NHS, you get passed from one doctor to another, especially if your a bit of a challenge to treat.
I think I will complain, if I can be bothered.
I'm just feeling a bit hopless really
I'm twenty four, I've never had a girlfriend.
I'm not that ugly, I'm just very shy :(
Its a sad story.To explain to none UK people:
In the UK most people do not have medical insurance. Instead you can see GPs for "free" (although you have to pay with your taxes of course!).
Most GPs don't know much, so the GP then refers you to a specialist. The problem is that you cannot choose the specialist your refered to, so this gives the doctors a lot of power. Bad doctors get payed just as much as good ones, because patients cannot choose who they see.
Posted by banga on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Re: Angry with my Pdoc!, posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 10:25:28
That is terrible! I'm sorry you had such an unsympathetic, self-centered pdoc. In working with pdocs in a hospital, I saw how arrogant and celf-centered some could be. I was shocked.
> Most GPs don't know much, so the GP then refers you to a specialist. The problem is that you cannot choose the specialist your refered to, so this gives the doctors a lot of power. Bad doctors get payed just as much as good ones, because patients cannot choose who they see.What a way to disempower the public!! There was a period where most U.S. medical networks began functioning similarly. Gave me an inkling of how helpless you feel.
But most larger U.S. networks now have reverted to more choice and less GP power. Some, however, still do what they can to keep power in the doctors' hands.
Posted by Racer on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Re: Angry with my Pdoc!, posted by banga on April 20, 2005, at 11:42:35
>>> Some, however, still do what they can to keep power in the doctors' hands.
>
>You know, I gotta disagree, since I've talked with a few of my doctors about all this. My beloved long-term opthalmologist, for one, told me a great deal about how much the insurance companies had reduced his control over how he practiced. And he left his practice as a result. (I'm very thankful that he sold his practice to a WONDERFUL doctor, whom I like as much as I liked him. But it's still a crying shame.)
For all that I have had some -- shall we say -- less than stellar experiences with doctors, I still have a certain amount of sympathy for many of them.
As for the NHS, things I've read about experiecnes in their system make me cringe. For every good experience, there are a dozen or more horror stories. The worst I've read involve eating disorder treatment, but I imagine that's just because those are the boards I've read.
Anyway, I send my condolences along to The_Resistance along with everyone else's.
Posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Re: Angry with my Pdoc! » banga, posted by Racer on April 20, 2005, at 13:22:27
Thanks to everyone who responded to this fread
I'm not feeling to bad now, I've gotsome Pregabalin/Lyrica which does help to keep social anxiety at bay.
I'm sorry if any of my recent posts sound agressive, I was just a bit upset.
Perhapse my posting name "The_Resistance" is to agressive? What do people think?
My name is Tom by the way
Posted by banga on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Re: Angry with my Pdoc! » banga, posted by Racer on April 20, 2005, at 13:22:27
>
> You know, I gotta disagree, ..... My beloved long-term opthalmologist, for one, told me a great deal about how much the insurance companies had reduced his control over how he practiced.
> For all that I have had some -- shall we say -- less than stellar experiences with doctors, I still have a certain amount of sympathy for many of them.Actually I agree, sorry I did not state my point clearly enough.....it was not directed against doctors, they suffer just as much if not more from insurance company control.
I was alluding to the lack of choice for the patient in choosing a doctor that meets his/her needs. In many cases it may not even be the case that the doctor is bad, but simply the doctor-patient relationship chemistry is not good. Both doc and patient would be better off if there was choice in the matter.
There are some brilliant doctors, and some that border on incompetent. The good doctors should get rewarded for their dedication by having returning patients. The bad doctor should lose business, not be guaranteed a good job regardless how good he/she is to the patients.
Posted by Phillipa on April 20, 2005, at 20:31:43
In reply to Re: Angry with my Pdoc! » Racer, posted by banga on April 20, 2005, at 16:20:56
Good post. I agree completely. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Tamar on April 21, 2005, at 6:11:08
In reply to Angry with my Pdoc! Thanks to all who Responded, posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 14:53:13
Hello Tom,
Can you ask your GP to refer you to a different Pdoc? It's inevitable that patients will sometimes experience personality clashes with health care professionals, and you should be able to convince your GP to refer you to someone else on that basis.
However, I'd recommend you don't tell your GP you think your Pdoc is a bad doctor; it probably won't help. Just say you would prefer to be treated by someone else.
Tamar
Posted by ixus on April 23, 2005, at 18:15:57
In reply to Re: Angry with my Pdoc!, posted by The_Resistance on April 20, 2005, at 10:25:28
Is it expensive to go to the private doctor and get the prescription for Nardil?
/ixus> Thanks to everyone who responded
>
> I relate to what Xbunny said about passing the buck. That seems to happen a lot in the NHS, you get passed from one doctor to another, especially if your a bit of a challenge to treat.
>
> I think I will complain, if I can be bothered.
>
> I'm just feeling a bit hopless really
> I'm twenty four, I've never had a girlfriend.
> I'm not that ugly, I'm just very shy :(
> Its a sad story.
>
> To explain to none UK people:
> In the UK most people do not have medical insurance. Instead you can see GPs for "free" (although you have to pay with your taxes of course!).
> Most GPs don't know much, so the GP then refers you to a specialist. The problem is that you cannot choose the specialist your refered to, so this gives the doctors a lot of power. Bad doctors get payed just as much as good ones, because patients cannot choose who they see.
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Psychology | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.