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Posted by jasmineneroli on February 20, 2005, at 18:33:10
Hi Everyone:
I don't usually come here, I'm usually on the med board or alternative and have not visited those very often recently. I was hoping someone here could help.
I have GAD with some OCD. Right now my anxiety has suddenly peaked. My Pdoc has advised against theraapy for me, doesn't think it will help, just give me more to worry about. I take tryptophan and Klonopin daily, usually to good effect.
Last week, someone I just met socially (a therapist) gave me a meditation CD to try. Saying it was excellent for anxiety and if I listened to it for 30 mins a day (with headphones) for 2 weeks I would start to feel better. Then after that to listen to it daily without headphones for a further 5 1/2 months. She predicted that I would come to a crisis point at 6 months and feel "bad" for a while, then I would be able to "heal".
Well, day One listening, made me so agitated I had to stop after about 10 mins. (Kept thinking of things I should be doing, was forgetting and felt the urge to do these things instead).Day Two, tried again, and listened for the whole time (under a blanket). After about 6 mins, I began to feel all the worst physical aspects of my anxiety rise, then I started a headache. After about 12 mins or so, I began to mentally feel very angry, frustrated and resentful. These feelings died down as the 30 mins ran out.
However my anxiety is now higher.(There are other stress things happening as of the past 2 days).
I tried again today for 30 mins, even though I was having an high anxiety day with a lot of akathisia. This was part 2 of the CD, a different soundtrack. I felt like something was trying to penetrate my brain and read my mind or program me...it was so weird, but I didn't get the headache or anger this time. Just a lot of stomach butterflies and trembling.
Can anyone tell me what's going on here? Should I continue or not? I really don't feel like discussing it with the person who loaned me the CD, cuz I barely know her.
Thank you.
Jas
Posted by messadivoce on February 20, 2005, at 19:36:25
In reply to Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction, posted by jasmineneroli on February 20, 2005, at 18:33:10
Well, I would say stop. It's obviously making you more agitated and that's never a good sign. I think meditation can help anxiety but it has to be approached the right way...along with therapy, for example. Or visualization.
I find it kind of presumptuous that someone would claim that a certain thing is a "cure all". This T doesn't even know you that well, how could she tell you what is going to change your life? From my experience, a good T doesn't claim to be able to "heal" or know exactly what "heals".
I know your pdoc doesn't think therapy is a good idea, but if you feel it's worth a shot then I hope you try it. It's your medical situation, after all. When the day's over, only you know what you truly need. If you are struggling with anxiety, then maybe a T could help you come up with strategies to alleviate it.
Finally, I found a wonderful CD that I listen to at night to help me relax. It's called "Ocean Surf" and it's just a recording of waves on the sand. Maybe you'd prefer just nature sounds to relax to.
Posted by messadivoce on February 20, 2005, at 19:43:20
In reply to Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction, posted by jasmineneroli on February 20, 2005, at 18:33:10
Sorry. The link is actually "Dan Gibson's Ocean Surf".
Posted by messadivoce on February 20, 2005, at 19:44:27
In reply to whoops, wrong link, posted by messadivoce on February 20, 2005, at 19:43:20
And that didn't work either. Crap. Sorry. Dan Gibson's Ocean Surf published by Solitudes.
Posted by gardenergirl on February 20, 2005, at 19:55:07
In reply to Re: whoops, wrong link, posted by messadivoce on February 20, 2005, at 19:44:27
I use that too. I absolutely have to have some kind of white noise or I can't sleep.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on February 20, 2005, at 19:58:06
In reply to Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction, posted by jasmineneroli on February 20, 2005, at 18:33:10
It's hard to know what's going on without knowing what the content of the CD is. But I agree, if it makes you agitated, it may not be for you.
I do know that sometimes when I meditate on my own, I get a sort of anxious, restless feeling throughout my body. It gets so creepy crawly I used to stop. I read in a book I really like that the restlessness may be a sign of something, and if you stick it out, you might be able to figure out what's going on. I did the next time I had it, and had kind of an emotional "storm". It was intense, but when it was over, I did feel better. But I'm not sure I would recommended that for everyone.
I'm curious, why does your pdoc think you shouldn't do therapy? There are lots of studies that show the benefits of meds plus therapy.
gg
Posted by rainbowbrite on February 20, 2005, at 21:32:27
In reply to Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction, posted by jasmineneroli on February 20, 2005, at 18:33:10
Hi
I would avoid using the cd. If you are not used to being in a state of relaxation trying to induce that feeling IMO could cause you to become way more anxious because the feeling is so foreign to you. I think that some people are just not naturally relaxed and that those tapes can actually open up stuff becasue it allows our thoughts to go free and think up more things to worry about. I hope things get better. How does deep breathing work?
Posted by rubenstein on February 21, 2005, at 12:23:02
In reply to Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction, posted by jasmineneroli on February 20, 2005, at 18:33:10
I have had trouble with that as well. I get so anxious and my body feels worse than it did before I started. Then I am such a perfectionist that I feel bad that I can't relax
Oh, the warped ways my mind works sometimes
sorry I am not much help but I certainly understand
rubenstein
Posted by fires on February 21, 2005, at 12:33:04
In reply to Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction, posted by jasmineneroli on February 20, 2005, at 18:33:10
I too have problems with all the "quiet brain" things like meditation, visualization, etc.. My mind is best when there is enough sensory input to keep it quiet.
Also, it's so REFRESHING to hear that a pdoc actually recommended against therapy!!
Posted by jasmineneroli on February 21, 2005, at 18:24:02
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction » jasmineneroli, posted by messadivoce on February 20, 2005, at 19:36:25
Hi & thanks for your response.
The woman concerned didn't really promise a "cure", she just felt sure this CD would help me heal, after the 6 months use. She volunteered to help me out, but I'm reluctant..I'm not sure why.
I had been wondering about therapy (and meditation as a form of therapy and a de-stresser), because, whilst my medications mostly control my anxiety, nothing is getting rid of it.I am interested in exploring to see if I have some psychological roots that causes the anxiety. My Pdoc believes that GAD is a different type of anxiety to specific phobias or PTSD, in that there isn't an event or lifestyle trigger exactly. It's more of a brain chemistry thing. I want to explore all options.
I am OK with the thought of taking the meds I'm on for the rest of my life if need be, but (like most of us) I would like to be med free if there is a possiblity of dealing with my GAD a different way. Especially since sometimes it suddenly raises it's head higher than my med regimine handles!
The CD I was listening to isn't just a music or relaxing sounds CD. It has other sound waves, in the inaudible range, piped into each ear....different ones for each ear, that are disguised by chimes and water/rain sounds. It was produced to integrate left and right brain waves & thinking patterns. I didn't know this until after I'd listened to the 2nd track, when I looked up the producers online. I swear I could HEAR the "inaudible" sounds!!!!! The premise being a bit like EMDR I suppose. It definitely made me feel very uncomfortable.
Thanks for the link, maybe a relaxing sounds would be more useful for me as a way to "treat" my anxiety. I'll try it out!
Warmest wishes,
Jas
Posted by jasmineneroli on February 21, 2005, at 18:25:53
In reply to Re: whoops, wrong link » messadivoce, posted by gardenergirl on February 20, 2005, at 19:55:07
> I use that too. I absolutely have to have some kind of white noise or I can't sleep.
> ggHey GG: I think I'm going to try that for the same purpose, sleep difficulties is another of my issues.....and I'm sure, highly connected to my anxiety.
Jas
Posted by jasmineneroli on February 21, 2005, at 18:32:07
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction » jasmineneroli, posted by rainbowbrite on February 20, 2005, at 21:32:27
> Hi
> I would avoid using the cd. If you are not used to being in a state of relaxation trying to induce that feeling IMO could cause you to become way more anxious because the feeling is so foreign to you. I think that some people are just not naturally relaxed and that those tapes can actually open up stuff becasue it allows our thoughts to go free and think up more things to worry about.*** This is exactly what my Pdoc thinks :). I'm definitely not naturally relaxed, and I think it DOES stress me to try so hard.
>I hope things get better.
***Thank you very much, I feel better today :).
>How does deep breathing work?
***Well, I'm not very good at it...I easily lose my rythmn as my mind wonders, but I can do it for about 30 seconds, and it CAN bring the "edge" off anxiety that is spiralling into panic. I do Pilates exercises nearly everyday, and find them to be very helpful. They use breathing in a different way, but it does serve to focus my mind on something else.
Thanks for your response.
Jas
Posted by jasmineneroli on February 21, 2005, at 18:34:25
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction, posted by rubenstein on February 21, 2005, at 12:23:02
> I have had trouble with that as well. I get so anxious and my body feels worse than it did before I started. Then I am such a perfectionist that I feel bad that I can't relax
> Oh, the warped ways my mind works sometimes
> sorry I am not much help but I certainly understand
> rubenstein**Haha! That's EXACTLY it! I felt like some kind of failure yesterday, but maybe this isn't for me. I'm going to give another try, and will discuss it with my Pdoc.
Thanks,
Jas
Posted by jasmineneroli on February 21, 2005, at 18:38:50
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad react » jasmineneroli, posted by fires on February 21, 2005, at 12:33:04
> I too have problems with all the "quiet brain" things like meditation, visualization, etc.. My mind is best when there is enough sensory input to keep it quiet.
>
*** That's a really good point, maybe my brain NEEDS to keep buzzing. Maybe that's what distinguishes GAD from other affective disorders.
> Also, it's so REFRESHING to hear that a pdoc actually recommended against therapy!!
>*** Ha! Yes, he doesn't do that for ALL his patients, just thinks that, in his experience, his GAD ppl haven't done well. If you read my reply posts above, you'll see why I wanted to investigate, despite his opinion.
Regards,
Jas
Posted by rainbowbrite on February 21, 2005, at 23:02:32
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction » rainbowbrite, posted by jasmineneroli on February 21, 2005, at 18:32:07
*** This is exactly what my Pdoc thinks :). I'm definitely not naturally relaxed, and I think it DOES stress me to try so hard.
OK I am so smart lol Actually I am the same way, it kills me to try and relax, including deep breathing.
*** I do Pilates exercises nearly everyday, and find them to be very helpful. They use breathing in a different way, but it does serve to focus my mind on something else.
Thats great! See, I say forget relaxation tapes, find the right thing for YOU, even if it is sky diving
Im glad your feeling better :-)
rain
Posted by partlycloudy on February 22, 2005, at 7:28:22
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction » jasmineneroli, posted by rainbowbrite on February 21, 2005, at 23:02:32
LOL! This is such an interesting thread - I have the hardest time trying to wind down at the end of the day and try to sleep. My mind speeds up as soon as my head hits the pillow. Nature sound cd's help - as long as I use them randomly, otherwise my brain anticipates the sounds and it's like I don't hear it at all. So one night it will be the ocean, another night a babbling brook, another night loons, etc. Also classical music such as piano sonatas can be relaxing.
The best remedy I've found so far has been Ambien.But this was about relaxing and GAD in general. I already know that my anxiety is not situational, but very random. When I was getting panic attacks, they were very specifically due to uncomfortable experiences (long waiting lines, enclosed spaces, feeling not in control) - and these have been resolved through therapy. To have this residual anxiety and be puzzled why my body continues to overreact to everyday stressors is my focus at the moment.
I also just started back with regular exercise (I belong to a Curves gym) and find that it helps mostly with my overall energy level, and less so with anxiety.
pc
Posted by rainbowbrite on February 22, 2005, at 7:37:43
In reply to Sky diving as relaxation! » rainbowbrite, posted by partlycloudy on February 22, 2005, at 7:28:22
Yeah thats what works for me! LOL just kidding, but Im sure there are people who do that :)
My mind speeds up when I hit the pillow too. I don't have GAD and I think I have only ever had one panic attack but I definately come alive as I turn out the light.
Good for you for getting back into excersise! It is helpful.rain
Posted by TamaraJ on February 22, 2005, at 9:56:41
In reply to Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction, posted by jasmineneroli on February 20, 2005, at 18:33:10
Hi Jas,
I'm so sorry to hear that you are struggling right now. I know what you are going through, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
> I have GAD with some OCD. Right now my anxiety has suddenly peaked. My Pdoc has advised against theraapy for me, doesn't think it will help, just give me more to worry about.
-- I don't understand that. Has he given you any concrete reasons why it wouldn't help besides his view that it would give you more to worry about? I guess if you think it is worth a try, then you should go for it. It is your quality of life that is being affected by the anxiety for goodness sake.
I take tryptophan and Klonopin daily, usually to good effect.
-- I'm glad for you that the tryptophan and Klonopin are, for the most part, working. At least you have some measure of relief, so, that's a good thing. But, it doesn't make it any easier when the anxiety hits an extreme and unbearable peak period. Have you ever considered other alternative therapies like hypnosis or acupuncture?
> She predicted that I would come to a crisis point at 6 months and feel "bad" for a while, then I would be able to "heal".
-- I don't know, I'll just put this out there, but maybe you are unique and hit the crisis point much earlier than is usually predicted (given your experiences with meds, you may well be the exception rather than the norm). Nevertheless, it sounds extremely unpleasant.
> However my anxiety is now higher.(There are other stress things happening as of the past 2 days).> Can anyone tell me what's going on here? Should I continue or not? I really don't feel like discussing it with the person who loaned me the CD, cuz I barely know her.
-- If listening to the tape is causing you enormous discomfort and exacerbating your anxiety, then you would probably wise to stop. There are other relaxation tapes out there. I remember in a thread a while ago, King Vultan (Todd) had recommended a couple of cds he uses for sleep, one of which I think was part of a relaxation series. He has said a number of times that he has had very good results with the cds. I'll try to find the thread for you for information.
Strength to you Jas. My thoughts are with you.
Tamara
Posted by TamaraJ on February 22, 2005, at 19:37:23
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction » jasmineneroli, posted by TamaraJ on February 22, 2005, at 9:56:41
The cds Todd said he was using are by Dr. Jeffrey Thompson, one of which is called Sleep and Relaxation which is part of a 4 cd set called Brainwave Suite. He told me that they are available from Amazon.com or in the New Age music section at Best Buy, Barnes & Noble, etc. I had checked it out after he told me about them, and they are also available through Chapters/Indigo.
All the best,
Tamara
Posted by jasmineneroli on February 25, 2005, at 1:37:12
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction » jasmineneroli, posted by TamaraJ on February 22, 2005, at 9:56:41
> Hi Jas,
>
> I'm so sorry to hear that you are struggling right now. I know what you are going through, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.*Thanks for your wishes Tamara, I've been very up and down this past 10 days. Some days are great, others are not.
> > I have GAD with some OCD. Right now my anxiety has suddenly peaked. My Pdoc has advised against theraapy for me, doesn't think it will help, just give me more to worry about.
>
> -- I don't understand that. Has he given you any concrete reasons why it wouldn't help besides his view that it would give you more to worry about? I guess if you think it is worth a try, then you should go for it. It is your quality of life that is being affected by the anxiety for goodness sake.
>* Well, he just feels that I would have anticipation anxiety and ruminations going into it, with lack of sleep, then a lot of second-guessing afterwards, like "I should have said....." or " why didn't I...?" etc.etc. The whole thing will be self-defeating, in that it will exacerbate my anxiety!!! I know I'm also afraid, in a way, I think I'm hanging onto my anxiety state, because at the lower level it's what drives me to get things accomplished. This is what I wanted to discuss with a psychologist.
> I take tryptophan and Klonopin daily, usually to good effect.
>
> Have you ever considered other alternative therapies like hypnosis or acupuncture?
>
* I've only had acupuncture for physical problems (but it worked very well, even though I didn't belive it would!). It's worth looking at, thanks for the suggestion. As to hypnosis..I would LOVE to try that, very intriguing. MY concern is finding a reputable person in my area. I'd need to REALLY TRUST that person!!
> > She predicted that I would come to a crisis point at 6 months and feel "bad" for a while, then I would be able to "heal".
>
> -- I don't know, I'll just put this out there, but maybe you are unique and hit the crisis point much earlier than is usually predicted (given your experiences with meds, you may well be the exception rather than the norm). Nevertheless, it sounds extremely unpleasant.
>* I actually spoke to her about my reaction recently, and she did say some ppl react immediately, or I might be "putting up a fight" against losing my anxiety, because it's the only state my brain knows. She also said that I might be unusually sound intolerant.
>
> -- If listening to the tape is causing you enormous discomfort and exacerbating your anxiety, then you would probably wise to stop. There are other relaxation tapes out there. I remember in a thread a while ago, King Vultan (Todd) had recommended a couple of cds he uses for sleep, one of which I think was part of a relaxation series. He has said a number of times that he has had very good results with the cds. I'll try to find the thread for you for information.
>
Thanks Tamara, I checked your further post and I'll look into that series. :)
> Strength to you Jas. My thoughts are with you.
>
> Tamara** Thanks for your thoughts...........hope you are doing well.
Jas
Posted by jasmineneroli on February 25, 2005, at 1:41:52
In reply to Jas, as promised, posted by TamaraJ on February 22, 2005, at 19:37:23
Posted by TamaraJ on February 25, 2005, at 9:15:23
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction » TamaraJ, posted by jasmineneroli on February 25, 2005, at 1:37:12
> > Hi Jas,
> * Well, he just feels that I would have anticipation anxiety and ruminations going into it, with lack of sleep, then a lot of second-guessing afterwards, like "I should have said....." or " why didn't I...?" etc.etc. The whole thing will be self-defeating, in that it will exacerbate my anxiety!!! I know I'm also afraid, in a way, I think I'm hanging onto my anxiety state, because at the lower level it's what drives me to get things accomplished. This is what I wanted to discuss with a psychologist.
-- That makes some sense I guess. But, if you shopped around, and found a therapist that specializes in anxiety disorders, maybe they would take it slow and spend a few sessions by perhaps working with you on management and relaxations techniques, etc., to help you become comfortable and help you deal with the overwhelming sensations. I know what you mean, though, about not wanting to let go. I, too, have found that my anxiety drives me. I could, however, do without the second guessing (the I should haves, the why did I do thats). I guess what I am thinking is that perhaps a good T could help you capitalize on the anxiety while helping you manage it when it becomes excessive and interferring as well as helping the learn to combat the extremely uncomfortable physical sensations. I don't know, maybe that doesn't make any sense at all.
> * I've only had acupuncture for physical problems (but it worked very well, even though I didn't belive it would!). It's worth looking at, thanks for the suggestion. As to hypnosis..I would LOVE to try that, very intriguing. MY concern is finding a reputable person in my area. I'd need to REALLY TRUST that person!!
-- I found the accupunture very relaxing and revitalizing, and the feeling would last a few days. After a session, I would have this overwhelming sense of energized calm and well-being. It's true about the hypnosis. You really need to find someone not only that you trust, but also someone you feel comfortable with, otherwise, I imagine, it won't work. It would probably be similar to shopping around for a T. Actually, some Ts are training in hypnosis.
>
> * I actually spoke to her about my reaction recently, and she did say some ppl react immediately, or I might be "putting up a fight" against losing my anxiety, because it's the only state my brain knows. She also said that I might be unusually sound intolerant.-- Given your reaction, it's probably wise to not continue with it or try it again. Who needs to deal with a "healing crisis" when they are already dealing with debilitating anxiety!
> ** Thanks for your thoughts...........hope you are doing well.-- I'm getting there and not doing too badly, thanks for asking.
Take care Jas. Wishing you all the best,
Tamara
Posted by HoldenYosarian on February 26, 2005, at 23:48:55
In reply to Please help me..meditation CD caused bad reaction, posted by jasmineneroli on February 20, 2005, at 18:33:10
> Hi Everyone:
> I don't usually come here, I'm usually on the med board or alternative and have not visited those very often recently. I was hoping someone here could help.
> I have GAD with some OCD. Right now my anxiety has suddenly peaked. My Pdoc has advised against theraapy for me, doesn't think it will help, just give me more to worry about. I take tryptophan and Klonopin daily, usually to good effect.
> Last week, someone I just met socially (a therapist) gave me a meditation CD to try. Saying it was excellent for anxiety and if I listened to it for 30 mins a day (with headphones) for 2 weeks I would start to feel better. Then after that to listen to it daily without headphones for a further 5 1/2 months. She predicted that I would come to a crisis point at 6 months and feel "bad" for a while, then I would be able to "heal".
> Well, day One listening, made me so agitated I had to stop after about 10 mins. (Kept thinking of things I should be doing, was forgetting and felt the urge to do these things instead).
>
> Day Two, tried again, and listened for the whole time (under a blanket). After about 6 mins, I began to feel all the worst physical aspects of my anxiety rise, then I started a headache. After about 12 mins or so, I began to mentally feel very angry, frustrated and resentful. These feelings died down as the 30 mins ran out.
>
> However my anxiety is now higher.(There are other stress things happening as of the past 2 days).
>
> I tried again today for 30 mins, even though I was having an high anxiety day with a lot of akathisia. This was part 2 of the CD, a different soundtrack. I felt like something was trying to penetrate my brain and read my mind or program me...it was so weird, but I didn't get the headache or anger this time. Just a lot of stomach butterflies and trembling.
>
> Can anyone tell me what's going on here? Should I continue or not? I really don't feel like discussing it with the person who loaned me the CD, cuz I barely know her.
> Thank you.
> JasHi jaz,
I'm new to this board, but certainly not the issues, all of which,so far, are right down my ally. I'll keep it brief: It's hard to guess at the origin of your reaction to the CD...if you had some particularly distressing or simply stressfull circumstances surrounding the period during which you listened that alone could be responsible (we all have denial mechanisms to keep us from being aware of too much at once, much having to do with diverting internal awareness toward external awareness--thus the lack of external stimuli while you weren't exposed to the "input" of the world as you normally are, but were instead left without these distractions to suddenly be overwhelmed by your immediate stressors while sequestered and listening to the CD. Another, and probably, (but it's just a guess) more likely scenario is that the same is true, but on a much larger scale. To put it simply, that you have a lot of "issues" of which you are totally, or at least only peripherally aware, the mere ackowledgment of which, combined with the natural obligation of analyzing and resolving such "issues" overwhelms you while listening to the CD. of course, the main question is:what's on the CD? My question to you would be: do you find that you have similar panicky responses to simply being at rest, without distraction and alone? If so, I'd say it's not the CD, but the deeper "Issues" (I hate that word) that are causing your reaction.
Please post back, I'm curious.HY
Posted by jasmineneroli on March 4, 2005, at 1:11:48
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad react, posted by HoldenYosarian on February 26, 2005, at 23:48:55
Hey Holden,
Sorry for the delay in response, but I've been busy AND stressed!!!
Thanks a lot for your response.
To answer your questions: 1) No, I don't panic when alone and at rest, I like to be alone. I feel very much on "display" in my "public persona" and it's a relief to be at home (or driving). I feel I need to be here to "re-charge".When I'm at home though, I'm either constantly thinking of the next task, brain goes a mile or minute. Or I'm in a sort of semi-coma! I can sit and not realize I've been doing nothing, just aimless thoughts, for about an hour!
2) The CD is a "holosync" CD. First in a series. It has sounds, supposedly in the inaudible range, fed stereophonically (headphones a requirement) into each ear. Different sound in each one and different tempo or beat. These are "buried" under sounds of rain or waterfalls, rivers and dripping water. One part of the CD also has deep chimes, like buddhist bells, that I find very irritating to listen to. The premise behind these are that your brain tries to integrate the inaudible sounds to link left and right brain activity. Once you are able to think with both sides of the brain, you can apparently process events, information, stimuli much more efficiently. Therefore you are able to (almost unconsciously) deal with issues causing anxiety and distress, in a healthy way. One that doesn't keep spiralling into adrenalin-type fight or flight responses.
It's aim is induce a state of theta brain waves. Most relaxed state, and most creatively open state, problem solving.You are right, I do have a lot of issues to deal with, that are in a state of flux, and I feel out of control. But they're really nothing out of the ordinary, when I compare myself to other's plights. There are a few things I never want to deal with, I guess. I'm not good at letting go.
Since posting, I tried the non-chime track again. This time on a day I wasn't anxious already. I still got the butterflies and trembles, and I was aware of the vibrating pulses etc in each ear, but I actually didn't get as strong a response that time. And afterwards I felt alright.
I asked my husband to listen to it and he could only hear the water and some "electrical buzzing" (which I also hear), but not the low booming pulses and the little taps. Some of the taps I heard in my right ear actually startled me!!BTW, I didn't know anything about the CD content or sounds etc. when I listened to them. It was only afterwards, when I researched the manufacturer, that I found out.
I think I'm very sound sensitive in a certain decibel range?????? Haven't used them again.
What do you think?
Thanks for your interest.
Regards, Jas
Posted by Chris O on March 4, 2005, at 20:24:35
In reply to Re: Please help me..meditation CD caused bad react » HoldenYosarian, posted by jasmineneroli on March 4, 2005, at 1:11:48
Jas:
I bought two binaural beat CDs Dr. Mercola recommended on his website last year. He, like your therapist, said that they produce amazing results for anxiety, depression, etc. When I listened to the CDs, also like you, I too found myself feeling more and more anxious. It's weird, hard to describe, but I do believe these beats, whatever they do, however they affect the brain, have the capability of actually, physically increasing anxiety. Now, I don't know if listening to the beats over and over eventually results in a resolution of the anxiety, but after reading on these boards that such beats have the ability to produce seizures (that Pokeman thing in Japan a few years back), I decided against using the CDs. I don't know. I am so paranoid about everything already that it's hard to know when to continue on with something and when to stop it. Grrrr, I hate my anxiety disorder!
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