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Posted by crazy teresa on October 13, 2005, at 21:01:47
She is going through a difficult time. I will let her share the details with you when/if she's ready.
Thank you,
crazy teresa
Posted by Dena on October 15, 2005, at 18:08:48
In reply to Please pray for Dena., posted by crazy teresa on October 13, 2005, at 21:01:47
Thanks for this prayer request, Teresa... God is answering, because I can feel myself being carried through this.
Those who know me know that I have 7 children... and then, after #7, I had two miscarriages, within 6 months of each other... the first was devastating, at 4 months, and the other happened before I knew I was pregnant.
I grieved them both, named them, and consider them to be my children, whom I'll see one day.
We went on a rampage of a trying-to-conceive frenzy... for months on end, with no conceptions. So, I gave up. Then, God healed my marriage, renewing my mind about sex, so that I was no longer the frigid "Ice Princess"... and I no longer felt the need to fill that void left by two babies who'd died.
I was content with my 7 children, and was even enjoying movng on...
Then, we left our legalistic church, got a new job, and moved to Oregon from Virginia...
finding out, shortly after arriving, that I was pregnant... it was a shocker! We had figured that we were "done", and that my eggs were no longer viable.
So, we adjusted, and were looking forward to this little one.
But two ultrasounds in the past 2 weeks show that there's been no growth, during a time of gestation when growth is phenomenal... also, they couldn't get a heartbeat... it indicates that the baby died at 6.2 weeks, about 2 weeks ago.
I'm preparing to miscarry... we'll soon pray about a name for this baby, and grieve, and let go.
Please pray that I'll miscarry naturally, rather than have to seek medical intervention (either medication or a D&C).
Also, we're praying for guidance re. a vasectomy... we've always been convicted to trust God with our fertility, and with our family size. I'm about to turn 44, and I've now had 3 miscarriages in 2 years. I want to hear God, and not go on emotions, fear, or my own comfort levels.
Thank you for your prayers -- I have been comforted through this...even finding moments of joy, peace and hope.
Shalom, Dena
Posted by lynn971 on October 18, 2005, at 18:55:26
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena., posted by Dena on October 15, 2005, at 18:08:48
Dena, I feel your pain. After my first child, I had four miscarraiges. My last pregnancy made it, she is now 5. My kids are 7 1/2 years apart.
My babies would die in me, too. I never knew if my baby was dead or alive until the next ultrasound.
For my last baby, my doctor was awsome. She let me take the doppler home. (So that I could hear the heartbeat). Shortly after I had my little sweety, I had to have a hysterectomy.
My husband was going to have a vesectomy right when I found out I was pregnant for my little girl. She was a surprise. I was not going to get pregnant again b/c it was to hard to lose the baby. I named all four of my babies too.
I have prayed for you. A D&C might be good though. The first miss I had, the doctor just pitted me. For a whole month, I had discharges. Sometimes it was chunks, it was hard to have that for a whole month. It might be best to finish with it all at one time.
((((Dena))) Love ya! Lynn
Posted by Dena on October 18, 2005, at 19:22:03
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena., posted by lynn971 on October 18, 2005, at 18:55:26
Thank you Lynn... I know you understand.
Today is my 44th birthday... I have a history of being disappointed on my birthdays (though I try to lower expectations)...
Today, I had wanted just to go out to dinner with my husband, and to celebrate, alone together, afterwards...
However, I started bleeding a couple of hours ago... I'm miscarrying on my birthday. Not sure why God would cause/allow this, but I choose to believe that good can come even out of this.
In a way, it's a gift... so that I can avoid the D&C... I want to grieve deeply, and for it to be real this time (my second m/c was mistaken for a long period).
I'll get through this... it's not "the unthinkable" any more... but a sad reality.
Then, we have to consider a vasectomy... after seeking counsel, and praying.
Shalom, Dena
Posted by lynn971 on October 18, 2005, at 20:01:55
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena. » lynn971, posted by Dena on October 18, 2005, at 19:22:03
((((((Dena))))) Just wanted to give you a hug.
(tears).
Posted by rayww on October 19, 2005, at 0:27:56
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena. » lynn971, posted by Dena on October 18, 2005, at 19:22:03
Dena, I'm sorry. May you find the solitude you need to process this with God. You're a survivor, and you'll get through this, with God.
"Wherefore, be of good cheer, and do not fear, for I the Lord am with you, and will stand by you; and ye shall bear record of me, even Jesus Christ, that I am the Son of the living God, that I was, that I am, and that I am to come."
Posted by Dena on October 23, 2005, at 19:52:18
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena. » lynn971, posted by Dena on October 18, 2005, at 19:22:03
Thanks everyone - for your prayers.
On Wednesday, it was bad... I'd forgotten how bad it can get. Like mid-labor... cramps, contractions that doubled me over, and passing clot, after clot, til I lost count.
Somewhere in there was my baby's body... but this time, I felt no compulsion to search for it. I let go, and knew that my baby's spirit - the real part of him/her - was with the Lord.
So, I got through it, and now the bleeding is minimal, almost done.
I feel weak, and bruised, and battered, and oddly "yucky"... keeping an eye out for sings of an infection.
I just crave feeling normal again...!
And,we continue to seek wisdom about future fertility. I want God's will... I'll have more babies, and even more miscarriages, if that's His plan... but if we're meant to be "done", I'd rather insure that I'll never have to have another miscarriage again... three is enough.
However, His will is pre-eminent, and I want to know it... I want the peace of His plan for me.
Prayers appreciated! For healing, for wisdom, and for protection against infection.
Shalom, Dena
Posted by Dinah on October 26, 2005, at 22:15:25
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena., posted by Dena on October 15, 2005, at 18:08:48
I'm so sorry, Dena.
Posted by Dena on October 26, 2005, at 22:41:39
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena. » Dena, posted by Dinah on October 26, 2005, at 22:15:25
Thank you, Dinah...
It's been tough... and I hope that I'm doing the necessary grieving justice. At times I just numb out, and do the next needed thing... (easy with 7 other kids needing things done).
And, this wrenching decision about a vasectomy... I just vascilate. Ugh.
I found out today that I've been feeling "yucky" due to a low-grade uterine infection - I'm now on antibiotics, which should help soon. I'd just like to feel better. To think that women used to die of these complications!
God is still in the business of carrying His children... and letting them snuggle on His lap.
I felt loads of love from your few words of comfort -- thank you.
Shalom, Dena
Posted by greenhornet on October 28, 2005, at 21:02:12
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena. » Dinah, posted by Dena on October 26, 2005, at 22:41:39
Dena,
My heart goes out to you, and I am praying that you will feel the comfort of God's loving arms.
Although we raised six healthy sons to adulthood, four of our angels are there waiting when we get to the Eternal Kingdom....what a reunion that will be..Hornet> Thank you, Dinah...
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> It's been tough... and I hope that I'm doing the necessary grieving justice. At times I just numb out, and do the next needed thing... (easy with 7 other kids needing things done).
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> And, this wrenching decision about a vasectomy... I just vascilate. Ugh.
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> I found out today that I've been feeling "yucky" due to a low-grade uterine infection - I'm now on antibiotics, which should help soon. I'd just like to feel better. To think that women used to die of these complications!
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> God is still in the business of carrying His children... and letting them snuggle on His lap.
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> I felt loads of love from your few words of comfort -- thank you.
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> Shalom, Dena
Posted by mama141 on November 10, 2005, at 20:17:54
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena., posted by greenhornet on October 28, 2005, at 21:02:12
> Dena,
> My heart goes out to you, and I am praying that you will feel the comfort of God's loving arms.
> Although we raised six healthy sons to adulthood, four of our angels are there waiting when we get to the Eternal Kingdom....what a reunion that will be..Hornet
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> > Thank you, Dinah...
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> > It's been tough... and I hope that I'm doing the necessary grieving justice. At times I just numb out, and do the next needed thing... (easy with 7 other kids needing things done).
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> > And, this wrenching decision about a vasectomy... I just vascilate. Ugh.
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> > I found out today that I've been feeling "yucky" due to a low-grade uterine infection - I'm now on antibiotics, which should help soon. I'd just like to feel better. To think that women used to die of these complications!
> >
> > God is still in the business of carrying His children... and letting them snuggle on His lap.
> >
> > I felt loads of love from your few words of comfort -- thank you.
> >
> > Shalom, Dena
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I read this over and think -- and this person gets blocked ?! Oh please!
Posted by Dena on November 10, 2005, at 21:07:50
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena., posted by mama141 on November 10, 2005, at 20:17:54
Hi, mama141, my newfound-friend and rabid-supporter! (envision a winking smiley face!)
Thanks for your kind words...
But you'd have to understand. In the past, I had a rather narrow view of not only how God communicated with us, but how we were to envision Him... I had Him very much "in a box", and regularly, in my zeal, put down others for thinking in any way "outside my box" about Him...
Now, I still believe what the Bible says about Him, but I'm no longer thinking I've got a corner on the market of absolute truth about Him... it seems that He's far beyond anything my human mind can do to contain, define, or explain Him...
C.S. Lewis' writings were instrumental in transforming my thinking. Especially the story of the character who worships the "wrong diety", and yet, Aslan (who is Jesus/God) credits it all toward Him, since no one could love that much, and be that dedicated, unless the love came from God, and therefore, his heart was right, even though the object of his worship was misconstrued.
(I'm hugely paraphrasing here, my apologies to Mr. Lewis, who, being with God, no longer sweats the small stuff!)
Anyway, my prior motivation to "spread truth" was not motivated out of love for others, so much as a zealous drive to be "right", and to "make others think the way I do"...
I leave that in God's hands... my goal these days is to love Him with all my heart, soul and strength, and to then love others as myself -- I leave them in His capable hands...
I now try to live the gospel always, and when necessary, to use words.
I say less (believe it or not!), and, as I yield to Him, I love more.
Yep - I've been blocked -- a LOT! But I knew the by-laws going in, and I'm sure I deserved it (even if I didn't, God can use that for my good).
But -- I'm back, and thus far, since repenting for trying to "force-feed" folks, I haven't been blocked this time around... more of Him, and less of me, maybe? I hope so!
Shalom, Dena
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 12, 2005, at 2:21:50
In reply to Re: Please pray for Dena. » mama141, posted by Dena on November 10, 2005, at 21:07:50
Posted by Dena on November 12, 2005, at 13:27:57
In reply to Re: keep up the good work! (nm) » Dena, posted by Dr. Bob on November 12, 2005, at 2:21:50
Thank you, Dr. Bob... I'm honored by your encouragement.
Come a long way, haven't "we"?!?
Shalom, Dena
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 13, 2005, at 13:01:07
In reply to Re: keep up the good work! » Dr. Bob, posted by Dena on November 12, 2005, at 13:27:57
> Thank you, Dr. Bob... I'm honored by your encouragement.
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> Come a long way, haven't "we"?!?You're welcome, I think we have! :-)
Bob
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