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Posted by ace on January 11, 2004, at 4:05:15
Thinking of adding it to my cocktail for ADHD, and OCD.
1. What did you use it for?
2. Dose?
3. How did it work?
Thanks my lovely friends!Ace.
Posted by mattdds on January 11, 2004, at 6:49:25
In reply to Wellbutrin success please!, posted by ace on January 11, 2004, at 4:05:15
Ace,
1. Use? Depression. I don't have ADD, so I couldn't evaluate it for that use. I think in general, it is considered to be not very useful for ADD. I've never heard of it being used for OCD. But perhaps as an adjunct.
2. Dose? Three of the purple pills per day. I forget what that dose was. I just remember that it was well into the therapeutic range.3. Did it work? Unfortunately no. It was way too stimulating for me, and I have mixed anxiety / depressive symptoms. If anything, it exacerbated my condition. Of course, this was in monotherapy. Perhaps it would have been better with a benzo or something to reduce anxiety.
Best of luck,
Matt
Posted by dragonfly25 on January 11, 2004, at 8:53:48
In reply to Wellbutrin success please!, posted by ace on January 11, 2004, at 4:05:15
I love it. well, that may be a strong word. i take it for depression at 300-mg to 450 mg (3 purple pills) depends on how i was/am doing. i have heard it is used a lot for ADD, i don't know if they have had success though. and i don't know anything about OCD, sorry. personally, i think it is worth a try
Posted by brussell on January 11, 2004, at 9:06:05
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin success please!, posted by mattdds on January 11, 2004, at 6:49:25
You should be very cautious with the Welbutrin, because it can have a stimulant effect and is contraindicated for use with MAOIs. I'd definitely check with a psychopharmacologist with MAOI experience before trying it.
That said, I consider it an energizing AD, like Parnate-lite. It helped me get out of bed and kept me moderately functional. When I quit taking it before I went on Parnate the effect was dramatic: I could barely get out of bed before one or two in the afternoon, and then only with enormous effort.
Unlike Parnate, it can make anxiety worse. I don't think it would be good for ADD--I think it increased my anxiety and made it harder to concentrate, although it didn't make me feel stupid or numb like an SSRI.
I did not get much result from it before I went to 300mg/day, using sustained-release tablets (which my doctor said seem to work better than the regular kind. I've also heard you can break them without destroying the SR quality).
For the symptoms you are describing, I don't thing Welbutrin would be a good choice, even if there weren't any risk of it causing a hp crisis.
Best of luck
Posted by Sebastian on January 11, 2004, at 10:10:41
In reply to Wellbutrin success please!, posted by ace on January 11, 2004, at 4:05:15
> Thinking of adding it to my cocktail for ADHD, and OCD.
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> 1. What did you use it for?
Energy, less smoking.
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> 2. Dose?
100 mg x 3 a day
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> 3. How did it work?
good. Energy, but no problems sleeping. Cut my smoking in half.
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> Thanks my lovely friends!
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> Ace.
Posted by Twuffy on January 11, 2004, at 20:02:55
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin success please!, posted by mattdds on January 11, 2004, at 6:49:25
Yes, it worked. I took it for a year and a half for depression. The purples two to three times a day (I would forget sometimes) I had alopecia in the beginning (hair loss, patches) and tinnutis. The tinnutis wasn't unpleasant though, I used it to remind me to take my meds. After a year and a half though I felt that I was stable and hoped that I could go off and be reset. Also, I was really annoyed with another major side effect: word ordering. I would mix up words, for example I would say "I am storing to the go." Or Can you shoe me that hand? Really weird and scary. Not constant but enough to annoy me and make me seem befuddled. I have friends who have the same problem with it. One takes it for ADD and is happy. I also lost lots of weight. Now I am trying Lexapro because apparently life without ads may not be possible for me. Then again I may have messed myself up again by using marijuana. Or I was using it because the depression was coming back. Hard to say, but I hope that helps.
Posted by Waterlily on January 11, 2004, at 20:44:29
In reply to Wellbutrin success please!, posted by ace on January 11, 2004, at 4:05:15
> Thinking of adding it to my tail for ADHD, and OCD.
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> 1. What did you use it for?Depression
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> 2. Dose?150 mg SR twice a day (300 mg per day)
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> 3. How did it work?Works fine except I get breakthrough depression sometimes, particularily with physical or severe psychological stress (ie. surgery will send me into a depression). I've been on it for 7 years and think I have more anxiety than is normal. I've been trying various SSRI's along with the WB for the anxiety, with only limited success. I asked my pdoc if maybe decreasing the WB dose might help with the anxiety. He said he didn't think so, but we might try that as a separate experiment. For now, I'm going up on Luvox from 100 mg to 200 mg.
Posted by CareBear04 on January 12, 2004, at 11:12:27
In reply to Wellbutrin success please!, posted by ace on January 11, 2004, at 4:05:15
> Thinking of adding it to my cocktail for ADHD, and OCD.
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> 1. What did you use it for?
Depression, sexual side effects
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> 2. Dose?
150
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> 3. How did it work?
> I take Wellbutrin + an SSRI. Works great, but I couldn't sleep well for the first few weeks. Also, can't have caffeine because it makes me super-jittery. Taken with a benzo, though, the activating/calming effects are pretty balanced, and WB gives me a lot more energy.
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> Thanks my lovely friends!
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> Ace.
Posted by Edgefield on January 12, 2004, at 17:05:28
In reply to Wellbutrin success please!, posted by ace on January 11, 2004, at 4:05:15
Hello Ace! I take Wellbutrin XL 300mg. I've posted about this before because unlike many others Wellbutrin did not give me a boost of energy, insomnia, or increased anxiety (other than the anxiety that I felt initially). It has helped my derealization alot, but I'm still looking for something to get rid of this symptom completely.
It has helped my anxiety and depression. My diagnosis is anxiety disorder which triggered the depression. I also haven't had anymore panic attack since I switched to Wellbutrin. I was having PA all the time on SSRIs.
I hope this info. helps.
Edgefield
> Thinking of adding it to my cocktail for ADHD, and OCD.
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> 1. What did you use it for?
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> 2. Dose?
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> 3. How did it work?
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> Thanks my lovely friends!
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> Ace.
Posted by psychlover on January 12, 2004, at 19:29:23
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin success please!, posted by Twuffy on January 11, 2004, at 20:02:55
Hey Twuffy,
That is very interesting that you said WB made you mix up the order of words. Since I have been on WB I will often mix up the letters in a word, that is to spell them wrong, esp. while typing by mixing up the order of the letters. This is esp. disconcerting considering I was a spelling champion!
Also it seems like I often don't read words correctly, like seeing "mood" when it says "good" or something like that. I am interested to hear more about Wellbutrin causing mental mix-ups.
Thanks!
P.S. WB XL 300 mg has been very good for me for about 2-3 months, surprisingly well tolerated since i have panic attacks and it didn't cause any. i am trying to wean off my lex 20 mg and i am still on tiny dose of klonopin 0.25 g at bedtime. all the best!
Posted by sailor on January 12, 2004, at 21:19:23
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin causes mental mix-ups? » Twuffy, posted by psychlover on January 12, 2004, at 19:29:23
Ace--I've tried it 3 times for long-term treatment resistant dsepression. Same results each time: within 3-4 days a very encouraging and welcome mood elevation (found myself singing with the radio for thew first time in a long time), then within another 3-4 days complete loss of benefit, and as I escalated the dose, a worsening depression that took me lower than when I started. At 57, I suspect my brain is dopamine deficient, and the Wellbutrin effectively used what was there until it ran out. I've also read several posts (some citing references) that claim that Wellbutrin use will ultimately deplete dopamine resources. Of course if you're younger and blessed with an abundant supply, this may not be an issue. I'm now on a Parnate trial and will continue posting as I see results, or lack thereof. Good luck
Posted by CraigD on January 13, 2004, at 21:10:50
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin causes mental mix-ups?, posted by sailor on January 12, 2004, at 21:19:23
> Ace--I've tried it 3 times for long-term treatment resistant dsepression. Same results each time: within 3-4 days a very encouraging and welcome mood elevation (found myself singing with the radio for thew first time in a long time), then within another 3-4 days complete loss of benefit, and as I escalated the dose, a worsening depression that took me lower than when I started. At 57, I suspect my brain is dopamine deficient, and the Wellbutrin effectively used what was there until it ran out. I've also read several posts (some citing references) that claim that Wellbutrin use will ultimately deplete dopamine resources. Of course if you're younger and blessed with an abundant supply, this may not be an issue. I'm now on a Parnate trial and will continue posting as I see results, or lack thereof. Good luck
Well that's kind of scary. I recently added WB to my Celexa 40 mgs with the hopes of bringing back my sex drive/orgasms. Not much luck with the sex, but the WB makes me feel more "normal" than just Celexa alone. Celexa makes me happy and agreeable, But when I hear myself talk, I think "God I sound fake" or just feel unconnected to the people I'm talking to. On the combo, I feel like my old self, just less depressed.I know that without the Celexa I'd probably be VERY anxious on just WB, but some people have taken it for anxiety and panic (see above).
I would even be willing to trade my Celexa for a benzo if I could get my mojo back.
But due to the short half life of WB, I feel like I'm "getting high" each time I pop a pill -- medicating my behavior when I feel inadequate instead of taking a pill once a day. Hearing this about WB bilking you of your last drops of dopamine strikes the same chord. I hope that's not true. I assumed WB blocked Dopomaine re-uptake instead of releasing more. That would make it like Cocaine or a psychostim.
Interesting. I still like it for now.
Posted by Iansf on January 14, 2004, at 0:56:32
In reply to Wellbutrin success please!, posted by ace on January 11, 2004, at 4:05:15
> Thinking of adding it to my cocktail for ADHD, and OCD.
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> 1. What did you use it for?
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> 2. Dose?
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> 3. How did it work?
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> Thanks my lovely friends!
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> Ace.
I've used 450mg/d of Wellbutrin for at least four years. I've found it moderately effective for depression, not at all useful for social phobia. I still drop into occasional bouts of profound depression, but they last only one to three days rather than weeks and months, not to mention years.What it has going for it, at least for me, is a virtual absence of side effects. I may have had some side effects in the first few weeks, I don't recall. But I have absolutely none now. No sexual dysfunction, no weight gain (or loss), no dry mouth, no itching, no additional anxiety, no emotional numbing, no anything. In that respect, it's great. I just wish it were a bit more potent in the treatment of depression.
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