Posted by 64bowtie on August 8, 2004, at 18:18:07
In reply to Daisy and 64bowtie, posted by antigua on August 8, 2004, at 11:34:38
< "[Aside], how do memories hurt anyone? Why would anyone give that much power and energy to an abstraction, a story about what happened to you, that it, the abstraction has the ability to take action against your senses and physically cause pain?"
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> My memories are not an abstraction so I think that makes a big difference as to how I interpret what you have to say.
><<< Hi, (((Antigua))). I hope I do better here than usual. I am only asking a question, and I'm only curious about DaisyM's answer. Your answer is extra-good because I didn't expect it.
I don't wish to enflame, but you didn't answer the question directly. You stated your position without accepting my premise, which incidently is backed up by all the neuro-science modelers of how the brain works.
Memories can't be real or they would be three dimensional, have weight, and take up space. Our thoughts are only abstractions that we operate better with than if we didn't think at all.
By their very nature of happening in a past tense, memories are our abstractions of what happened, not the event relived. Like I said above, Norman Bates in the movie, "Psycho" found this unsurmountable and frustrating, so he began re-enacting his torturous and tormenting memories.
I appeal to you to lighten your grip on your version of meaning for the word abstraction and get curious about what else it might mean. I never intended to have the word come across as derogatory. I'm big on abstraction, partly because the nun's called it a sin.
We're not talking "Bugs Bunny" here. Distortion is not necessarily an earmark of abstraction, yet abstractions do often get distorted over time. I suppose I have to search for a less cojent word to ask questions about.
Thank you for the interchange of information.
Rod
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