Posted by honeybee on May 31, 2006, at 12:03:53
In reply to Re: What I think of ACT, posted by pedrito on May 31, 2006, at 11:49:11
> Hi there,
Thanks to both of you for sharing your insights. You have a quite daunting command of the material! Something for a newbie like me to emulate.
> > > have dipped into "Acceptance and Behavior Therapy" that Hayes and several of his colleagues wrote for therapists (sometimes, workbooks strike me as a bit puerile).
> Do you mean the "Acceptance and Commitment Therapy : An Experiential Approach to Behavior Change" book? I'm on my 4rth reading of this book now and it's helped me immensely. As an "end user" and not a professional, I am not the designated audience but it's slowly sinking in =0]Yes, that's a big "oops" on my part. I'm at work, and going from (a highly tempermental) memory. It's funny, but I really prefer the book! Sometimes, granted, I skim over the treatment/session protocols, but the book takes more time with the metaphors and fleshes out the philosophy in a grabbable way. Meaning that I can digest it better, of course.
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> > He has EXPLODED at mild critical questions there and later affirmed the explosions.
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> Wow, I have heard the same from "badhaircut" who frequents PB and the yahoo ACT board. I suppose when you're bright enough to come up with something like ACT, you're going to have... deficiencies elsewhere =o] Perhaps the saying that "all publicity is good publicity" applies here and if it takes extreme grandiosity to get ACT infront of more sufferers then so be it.It's funny, but I've done a lot of yoga, so the whole guru-gone-bad (aka "crazy wisdom") of folks like Hayes is familiar. "Do what I say, not do what I do..." Even Gandhi had his flaws, so I suppose that Hayes's outbursts and megalomania aren't surprising.
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> > Hayes said ACT was urgently needed to solve the Middle East peace problem;
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> LOLBrilliant. Being so like Christ must have given him the necessary insight to find us the pathway to worldpeace.
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> > > Hayes does seem to have provoked a cultlike adulation from his converts.
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> definitely
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> > The "C-word" as they call it is a very sore spot among the ACT core. But now that I subscribe or read 3 professional therapist listservs of various orientations, I'm finding that us/them thinking and parochialism are universal in the industry. Even in the "Common Factors" group that's dedicated to NOT being parochial: their attitude is "We few who are not parochial are so much better than all those parochial guys who think they're better than others."
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> LOL
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> > I don't post at the Yahoo group, though I don't rule it out. Trouble is, I want to be free to assert and defend SKEPTICAL questions, and that's not really allowed there. Plus, some of those converts are SO tiresome! (I speak as one who knows how to be tiresome.)
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> I'll second that. They live, breath and eat ACT metaphors. They sound like stuck records a lot of the time. Sometimes I feel like I'm communicating with poorly-written, repetitive software algorithms on that forum.
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> > Pedrito, who started this thread, has been assiduously using ACT since last year, and reports that it has helped him a lot.
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> This is true. Of course, the assiduousness of my efforts is itself a massive invitation to "dig". For me, that's one of the greatest difficulties with ACT: to recognise and differentiate digging from defusing/observing.
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> > > p.s. What med did the trick for you? I love hearing success stories.
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> > They're too rare on Babble. I take the mild synthetic opioid buprenorphine (Subutex). It has been gradually changing my life.
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> Ditto. I tried to promote ACT + meds on PB and got stone-walled. So many people on PB seem so wholly preoccupied with their illness that it is the only thing left to which they can cling. They don't want to hear people "getting better" it would seem.
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> PedrWow, that's too bad. Though it's not surprising. I only recently discovered babble and have, on occasion, realized that it was time to take a break, that inquiring, digging, ferreting out info was getting out of control (as it is wont to do, if I am not otherwise occupied). Granted, I'm still looking for my med combo (uh, anyone know what to do when a med makes the skin on your face *really dry* I mean *really, really, really dry and almost scaly*--good times! I'm going for auditions for a horror show next week), but it's really cool to hear about people finding therapies and meds that work for them. All in balance, I suppose.
Funny about those metaphors. I'm just newly exposed to them and them seem quite glom-on-able. Lately, it's been the quicksand that's bouncing around like a pinball in my head. Plink. Plink. Plink.
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