Posted by KarenRB53 on January 21, 2010, at 14:55:19 [reposted on February 7, 2010, at 23:27:05 | original URL]
In reply to Rhodiola Rosea--- JohnL, posted by Peter S. on February 3, 2003, at 12:22:06
> Hi John,
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> Can you say a little more about your experience with rhodiola Rosea? What brand do you use? How much per day do you take? Any other effects/side effects? Do you know why this stuff isn't more well-known?
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> Thanks!
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> > Hi,
> > In a perfect world you could have a Pdoc that would treat you with whatever med improves your life dramatically.
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> > You know, you could actually go right through the yellow pages and call every Pdoc there is to tell them you have a condition that responds excellent to opioid meds and that you would like to be carefully treated and monitored with them. Nine out of ten will give you a no, or some round about thing, or some politically correct answer, or you have to have an appointment first, or whatever. But sooner or later you are going to stumble onto someone that says, "Sure, that sounds interesting, come in and see me".
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> > I've done that in the past and it worked good. I found just the Pdoc I was looking for. But it was a lot of work and a lot of blind phone calls out of the yellow pages.
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> > I have symptoms similar to yours. The combo that works great for me, in terms of motivation, interest, feeling alive, is 20mgProzac plus 300mgAdrafinil plus 5mgZyprexa, as well as the herb Rhodiola Rosea. Prozac alone did nothing for me except make me numb. But for some strange reason it goes really well with the other meds.
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> > Rhodiola Rosea is a fairly unknown herb. It is claimed to be a powerful antidepressant, anti-anxiety, prosexual, and mild stimulant. It is said to be better than St Johnswort, SAMe, Ginseng, or Gingko. Based on my own personal curious trials of this herb, I have to admit that all of the above claims are true with me. Rhodiola helps me in a lot of ways.
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> > Anyway...Rhodiola boosts serotonin function, dopamine function, and...drum roll please...beta endorphines and opioids. Probably not nearly as powerful as a pharmaceutical, but who knows. I can feel it for sure. If interested, be sure to try a brand that has 4% Rosivin extract content. You'll have to mailorder it. Good idea to let your doc know what you are doing, if for no other reason he/she can document your progress.
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> > If you try it and don't like it, then let the fingers do the walking through the yellow pages. :-)
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> > JohnL
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> > > hi , i have found several threads in here that were very helpful , i have so called abused opioids in the past , only because i actually felt ALIVE , INTERESTED and motivated ... if i could look forward to once a week of using them i would .. at least i would have some hope for that week .. any way , the only drugs i have been prescribed so far are prozac , effexor and wellbutrin .. I'm still BLAH.... do i really have to go thru the almost endless list of meds before they may even consider some for of opiates? i know how i feel and the only time i felt well was when i got percocet from the dentist , or vicodin when i broke my ankle ,, i must tell you that i have this chronic state since i have been 12 yrs ,... i used to wonder why people got so excited about life !!! i also wondered how people held down jobs cooked dinner and spent time with family .. i can't do all these things with out getting tired .. but while on percoset i get energy .. strange huh? i can't clean , do laundry and shop all in one day , i can only pick one or two a day and i don't know if it is because i have to push myself to do these things that zap my energy or i just do not have energy to begin with , and i know that i am not lazy .. i've had blood tests to rule out physical things .. all were clear .. why does depression make you tired???? is it because i push to do things , is it because the boredom and lack of interest ??? why ??? i had an ultram script from the dentist but it was 2 1/2 years old and only 50mgs ,, i have thrown it out long ago so there is no trying that .. what upsets me also is that these drugs that they will try will take weeks to see if they work and i am so tired of feeling this way .. soo sooo tired ... weeks seem like years . sleep is my only escape but this is so sad .. my life is sad :{ ...
> > > i also want to add that i think many alcoholics and addicts are difficient in enorphin and opioid areas of the brain.. and that it is passed down genetically , my family is riddled with depression , alcoholism and bipolor .. does anyone know of a doctor in the pennsylvania area that is open to opiate treatment.. please give me some feedback .. thanks laura
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>Hi JohnL: Don't know if you're still on the board or not but thought I'd try. Are you still using the Rhodiola Rosea? I'm presently on Celexa and while it does help the depression, I have absolutely no motivation. I'm filled with a kind of nothingness. So I was wondering about adding either the Rhodiola or Adrafinil? Any suggestions appreciated.
Karen
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