Posted by tealady on October 8, 2004, at 18:45:28
In reply to Re: Brainwave training boosts neurotransmitters.... » tealady, posted by JLx on October 7, 2004, at 10:28:12
> It's too bad you can't get "Feeling Good" there. I've been kind of resistant to the cognitive therapy idea because I thought either I knew it already (hehe) or that it was a "blame the victim" idea, but I was wrong on both counts. Here's what he calls "cognitive distortions":
I think it's usually "blame the parents..and not the genetics either"..seems to have been in that cycle for the past 20 years or so...the cycles vary thru history but this book does seem good .Thanks for the descriptions. Saw it on Amazon..postage is still pretty high.
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> ALL OR NOTHING THINKING: You see things in black-and-white categories. If your performance falls short of perfect, you see yourself as a total failure.
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> OVERGENERALIZATION: You see a single negataive event as a never-ending pattern of defeat.
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> MENTAL FILTER: You pick out a single negative detail and dwell on it exclusively so that your vision of all reality becomes darkened, like the drop of ink that colors the entire beaker of water.
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> DISQUALIFYING THE POSITIVE: You reject positive experiences by insisting they "don't count" for some reason or another. In this way, you can maintain a negative belief that is contradicted by your everyday experiences.
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> JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS: You make a negative interpretation even though there are no definitive facts that convincingly support your conclusions.
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> *Mind reading -- You arbitrarily conclude that someone is reacting negatively to you, and you don't bother to check this out.
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> *The Fortune Teller Error -- You anticipate that things will turn out badly and you feel convinced that your prediction is an already established fact.
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> MAGNIFICATION (CATASTROPHIZING) OR MINIMIZATION: You exaggerate the importance of things (such as your goof-up or someone else's achievement) or you inappropriately shrink things until they appear tiny (your own desirable qualities or the other fellow's imperfections).
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> EMOTIONAL REASONING: You assume that your negative emotions necessarily reflect the things really are: "I feel it, therefore it must be true."
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> SHOULD STATEMENTS: You try to motivate yourself with shoulds and shouldn'ts as if you had to be whipped and punished before you could be expected to do anything. "Musts" and "oughts" are also offenders. The emotional consequence is guilt. When you direct should statements towards others, you feel anger, frustration and resentment.
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> LABELING AND MISLABELING: This is an extreme form of overgeneralization. Instead of describing your error, you attach a negative label to yourself: "I'm a loser." When someone else's behavior rubs you the wrong way, you attach a negative label to him: "He's a louse" Mislabeling involves describing an event with language that is highly colored and emotionally loaded.
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> PERSONALIZATION: You see yourself as the cause of some negative external event which in fact you were not primarily responsible for.
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> That's kind of the foundation of the book, I think (I'm not done reading yet): exploring those distortions and what to do about them. I wrote these out to give you an idea if you wanted to buy it and also because I need to hear them as they are my habitual mode of thinking! I really had no idea that my thinking was so counterproductive. All I've been doing so far is simply notice, which seems to help in itself, but he also has many exercises such as learning to "talk back" to that negativity.
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> > Went and got depressed after an endo visit yesterday...no comment about Oz endos! Just felt like giving up..better today.
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> Glad you're better, sorry to hear that you had a frustrating time. Doctors can be the worst pain when they can't figure out what's wrong and/or won't listen. DON'T give up, please.
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> Have you ever been to a naturopath? Someone really good, I mean. Changing your blood pressure just by adding or lowering salt seems like an exaggerated reaction that might mean something significant.Naturopaths over here aren't qualified doctors..and I tend to disagree with a lot of stuff they are taught..that said, I'm sure there are good ones around. They can't prescribe meds either or tests..the really bad thing compared to the US is, we can't order and pay for our own blood tests..like with HealthcheckUSA you can over there if you can't get a doc to test you. A lot of folk on the thyroid forum use them for checking on their levels..it's similar to being a diabetic and checking on your blood sugar levels...no reason that I can see for not allowing one to check on their blood levels of various things...gee , it's our blood!
Well you do get patients then going to docs with the blood levels and saying..look I'm out of range for this?,..and some docs don't like that..., but a lot of folks get treatment that way . I would like to be able to get a couple of blood tests run, as if they showed something , I could then get treatment and might even be cured..gee I guess that would cut business?..sorry feeling sarcastic.
I can't send my blood to the states either..with having to centrifuge it and quarantine etc.I just get sick of.."you don't look it" type answers!
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> > I know..I'm strange. and I can never work out how much is caused by psychological things..like the bad endo appointment brings on the physical symptoms as well as the depression?
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> Both probably, which is why it's so frustrating.
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> > Wouldn't it be good if you get both job offers...do you think they would do that?
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> No, I think they'd only hire me as a transcriber if they weren't going to hire me as the director. Or maybe they'd hire me as a transcriber and leave the director position open for a while. That would save them money and they'd have a chance to check me out for a while.That makes sense..
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> I just got a note from the guy who interviewed me saying he will be talking to the CFO later today. I also have to fill out an application so they can check my references. I hope they don't also check my credit history as it's terrible nowadays.sounds a bit exciting..fingers crossed
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> I'm still using my brainwave CD after all, at least the relaxing one. I decided to give it a good trial before I send it back. I suspect it may be acetylcholine that it is boosting that feels uncomfortable to me as I noticed I don't like the effects of lecithin either.Lecithin is still on my "to try" list..I keep forgetting to buy it!. I bought ground linseed instead last time, sigh (brian wasn't working).
Acetylcholine is something I have to look into more..it's related to thyroid hormones .. I think thyroid hormones act on acetylcholinerase somehow. I put a study about it on here last year..but couldn't figure out what it was about then. Will have to look at again.
I suspect that cholinergic drugs and this are related ..as an effect I had when I went on thyroid hormones was similar to one the bladder nurse told me a couple of weeks ago that people get from cholinergic drugs.....and there is the choline in both there..
I'm pretty confused about all of this. Lots to learn I guess.
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> Do you know about Babblemail? I just twigged to it after all these months. ;)I've heard it mentioned here..but so far haven't looked around to see how it works. I noticed the old ability for folks to contact me via email has gone..guess with the intro of the babblemail.
If you get the job keep in touch. <g>
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