Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2014, at 8:38:49
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on September 6, 2014, at 3:40:59
> > Let there be no misunderstanding here. The latitude by the judge could be in the degree of the sentence, but the judge could not say that what the person is being sentenced for was not against the rules, for if that was the case there would not be any sentence, for the person would be not guilty.
> > Here you are the judge. But you are allowing what is against your rules to be seen as not against your rules. You could sanction the statement and still give latitude in your sentences by you not sanctioning the person, but by posting your tagline to please be civil to the statement that is against your rule.
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> I consider asking someone to be civil to be a sanction.
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> > you state that support takes precedence. That means what it means. In what you have written here, what takes precedence is what in your thinking will be good for this community as a whole. In allowing what is not supportive to be posted without sanction, a subset of readers could think that you have lied when you posted that support takes precedence.
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> True, a subset of readers could think that.
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> A subset of readers could also think that I'm supporting the community as a whole by giving it an opportunity to deal with issues like hate.
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> Bob
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Mr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...A subset of readers could also think that I'm supporting the community as a whole by giving it an opportunity to deal with issues like hate...].
I am unsure as to what you want readers to believe by what you wrote. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
True or False
A. By me not posting my tagline to please be civil to the anti-Semitic statements in question and the statements that defame you, Lou, I consider that to be supportive here.
B. By the fact that because I do not post my tagline to be civil to those, Lou, readers could think that anti-Semitism and defamation against you, Lou, is supportive.
C. It is my intent, Lou, to allow antisemitism and defamation against you, Lou, posted here without my tagline to please be civil and to be seen as supportive and will be good for this community as a whole, which could develop and create hate toward Jews and you, Lou.
D. I am deliberately allowing anti-Semitism and defamation against you , Lou, to stand here unsanctioned, in an experiment to see how readers react to me allowing hate to be seen as supportive.
E. It really doesn't matter to me, Lou, if you become a victim of anti-Semitic violence, or if other Jews also, or that the effects of defamation being allowed to be posted against you here, Lou, unsanctioned, inflict emotional distress to you, for I am supporting the community as a whole by doing that.
F. I have explored the legality of me allowing anti-Semitism and defamation toward you to be seen as civil here by me, Lou.
G. Fill in:
I have a rational basis, Lou, for saying that there could be a subset of readers that could think that {I am supporting the community as a whole} by giving it {an opportunity to deal with issues like hate}. If you, Lou, think that I mean that by allowing anti-Semitism and defamation against you, Lou, to be seen as civil here and supportive and will be good for this community as a whole, that I am allowing that in order to see how members post about it, then here is my rational basis for thinking that a subset of readers could think that I am supporting the community as a whole, Lou. And if that is not what I mean, Lou, then here is what I do mean:
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