Posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2014, at 9:03:47
In reply to What if subsets of readers disagree?, posted by pontormo on September 3, 2014, at 12:03:21
> I don't know if you recall it, Lou, but earlier this year, a subset of readers wrote that Bob showed preference toward you. They said he did not sanction posts of yours that, if they were posted by others, would have been sanctioned. They said that you were given a greater right to make statements that others would not have been allowed to make without a sanction.
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> It seems to me, then, that a subset of readers could think (and indeed did think) that you were being treated with greater respect and esteem than other posters at psychobabble. And if that is the case, they could also think that your reputation is being enhanced by Bob, and that you are being raised in the esteem of readers. They could think that readers might conclude that your posts are to be taken more seriously and given more importance than the posts of other posters.
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> And they could be (and were apparently) led to think that Bob is unfair to some posters on psychobabble (ie to the posters who would have been sanctioned).
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> In sum, a subset of readers could come to that conclusion, and yet another subset of readers could come to the conclusion that Bob allows defamation against you to stand, and that your reputation is therefore harmed.
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> It then becomes the question whether Bob should take further steps to show that no posters are being given preference and that all posters are being treated equally.
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> Could you answer the following questions, in a brief statement of an answer to each, so I could understand it clearly?
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> 1. How does one know which subset of readers is correct? If being seen to be more civil by one subset involves being seen as less fair by another subset, which subset is more important? which subset's needs should be attended to? what if the FAQ, or prior statements of rules, through posts, or the tenets of any religion or theory that Bob believes in, do not give clear directions as to how to resolve such conflicts?
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> 2. How should Bob decide whether to act, when his judgment is questioned by subsets of readers with opposite beliefs?
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> 3. Can he use his judgment in deciding how to resolve this problem?
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> 4. If he should not use his judgment, how should he come to a decision as to whether to, or how to act?
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> I believe that Bob holds you in esteem, and that this is clearly visible; and that he has given you a forum to express and to argue your point of view in a way that allows another subset of readers, such as myself, a chance to understand your views.
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> But I would like to hear your answers to the questions that I have posed. This is not to start a debate with you on these questions, but to understand how you think on such issues.pontormo,
Let there be no misunderstanding here. What can be seen is what it is, it says what it says. What a subset of readers could think here concerning your concern about Mr. Hsiung using his judgment, is involving in my case, the allowing of statements that, in particular but not limited to, is defamation of the Jews. And also statements that defame me. His reasons given for him to justify his doing so in his own mind is that sometime in the future good will come to this community as a whole as a result of him using his judgment to allow anti-Semitism and defamation against me to be seen as civil, supportive and will be good for this community as a whole, or if he was to post his tagline to please be civil to those anti-Semitic statements and the defamation against me here, it would not be in the best interests of this community in some way.
But the interests of this community is for support and education as stated as the mission here in Mr. Hsiung's TOS/FAQ and that fairness and the Golden Rule used in his thinking to administer the forum. So a subset of readers could understand by what Mr. Hsiung is putting into the minds of readers here, is that by allowing anti-Semitism and defamation against me here to be seen as civil, that anti-Semitism and defamation of the Jews and me is civil in his thinking. That type of thinking then, is disclosed by Mr. Hsiung to be supportive and will be good for this community as a whole on the basis that it is in his TOS/FAQ as to be the mission of the forum, and those in concert with him can uphold hatred toward the Jews and me to be promulgated here and be in concert with Mr. Hsiung by posting anything here that could lead readers to think that they are condoning what is in Mr. Hsiung's thinking to be allowed by him here as to be justified.
The Golden Rule has been used by atheists to ridicule the Jews. That is because they are ignorant of Judaism and have a false understanding of what the Golden Rule entails in Judaism. I am here in one aspect to stop that false understanding of the Golden Rule to be promulgated by men ignorant of Judaism. The fact that Mr. Hsiung has posted prohibitions to me that prevent me from educating readers about Judaism as in the foundation revealed to me, while allowing the foundation of hatred toward the Jews, as in {No non-Christian will enter heaven} to stand is a policy that is against Judaism by disallowing the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me to be posted here. Anything that is against Judaism is anti-Semitic on its face.
There had been millions of people in the past that trusted those that said that it will be good for their country to allow anti-Semitism to be promulgated. And there have millions of Jews murdered by them. They can not speak here. I will speak for them.
Never again.
Lou
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