Posted by Lou Pilder on July 15, 2014, at 7:49:06
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on July 15, 2014, at 1:14:51
> > Note my objection to your use of selective enforcement of your rules as can be seen by your reply to me here that I am responding to.
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> Noted.
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> > To sanction one stone-thrower does not prevent the harm that could come to me by you allowing others to inflict emotional pain upon me with defamation of insults to my character
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> True.
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> > Your TOS could lead a subset of readers to think that when you say that members are to be civil at all times and that being supportive takes precedence, that you mean that you will not use selective enforcement in applying your rules here.
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> True. And when the police say that drivers are to obey the speed limit at all times, a subset of drivers could think that they will give everyone who goes too fast a ticket.
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
Your posting here of what could be thought that you are using an analogy to compare yourself with a traffic policeman giving speeding tickets could IMHO seriously mislead a subset of readers. A rational basis for thinking that you are comparing yourself with a traffic policeman is because you posted this here, so readers could think that because you posted it, you are presenting it as a way of readers to consider your role and function here as owner/operator of this site. But another analogy could have been posted here by you to IMHO more accurately reflect your role as owner/operator here.
I think that a more accurate representation of your role here could be thought to be like a 911 operator for taking emergency calls. I base this on the fact that you have made it available to readers to {notify the administration} by clicking on a box, like making the 911 call. And also that you have a team of deputies that function to implement your policies and rules to prevent harm that could come to members by statements that put down or accuse another which defamatory statements directed at another member could do. And I have made the objection that your use of selective responding to notifications to the administration could lead to tragic consequences to those members that become victims to harmful statements because you will not act on them according to your own policy in your TOS here.
If a 911 operator was to respond selectively to calls, some jurisdictions could bring civil/criminal charges to that operator for any deaths or injuries that resulted because the operator refused to respond to the emergency call. In some jurisdictions, the failure of the owner/operator and any deputies of such that allowed a statement to stand in a web site that caused a death of someone could be held liable for the death because they could have prevented the death and did not sanction the post that had encouragement for one to kill themselves. The harm that could come to members here could be of the same nature because the population here is vulnerable to killing themselves due to the fact that in a mental health community, posters are in a state of seeking help from depression and addiction and can be under the influence of mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor that you allow to be promoted here. Those drugs are under scrutiny and many research studies show that they can induce suicidal/homicidal thinking. To allow members to be recipients of defamation here without you or your deputies of record sanctioning the defamation, could lead the victim of the hate to be drawn down into a vortex of depression that could lead to suicide.
In other posts that you use selective enforcement, these are those that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings and anti-Islamic feelings. Your rule is to not post anything that could lead one to think that their faith is being put down. If you select which faiths are allowed to be put down, such as allowing anti-Semitic statements to be seen as civil here where they are originally posted here, then a subset of readers could think that your policy is to discriminate against Jews here, which a subset of those that follow hate-groups could think that this site is an anti-Semitic site based on their definition that if a site has an anti-Semitic policy, it is an anti-Semitic site just as if a company had an antisemitic policy, it could be thought to be an anti-Semitic company.
I am asking you to:
A. Immediately post to the anti-Semitic statements and the statements that defame me that you allow to be seen as civil here where they are originally posted something like:
NOTICE TO ALL READERS
I realize now that my use of selective enforcement of my rules here is contrary to sound mental-health practices and can lead to discrimination which is an abuse of power. This could also lead to members that are victims of discrimination here to have feelings of unworthiness that could lead to suicide.
I am taking the following remedial steps to help those that feel that I have contributed to the deterioration of your mental health
First, I will respond now to all of Lou's outstanding notifications by referring to my archives of notifications. Then Lou will have the opportunity to respond to what I post to them.
Second, in Lou's responses, I will be able to see more clearly how members could benefit from what is in his responses and retract my 3- consecutive post rule.
Now I think that if you do that, {improvement} to the community could be a result and lives could be saved, addictions and life-ruining conditions could be avoided and members could hear from me by reading my responses to your replies to my outstanding notifications.
Lou Pilder
poster:Lou Pilder
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URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1068333.html