Posted by Lou Pilder on July 9, 2014, at 6:30:54
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2014, at 21:44:10
> > To protect me by encouraging members to not respond to me is in and of itself could be thought to be an overgeneralization by you according to a subset of readers. They have a rational basis for thinking that because you did not specify who the members are or as to how many members are throwing stones at me. What you did post about me is that others might not respond to me if you did not respond to me, which could be thought by a subset of readers that you want to encourage them to shun me here, or isolate me if they see that you do not respond to me. That could stigmatize me here and put me in a false light which could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable feelings and opinions of me.
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> That's true, it could.
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> You know, I wouldn't say (if I did before, I rescind that) I want to encourage members not to respond to you. What I want is to show members that they have the option of responding or not responding to you.
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> > Let their be no misunderstanding here. Those that throw stones at me here have your remedy to be sanctioned for anything that could be posted that leads me to feel put down or accused. That would protect me from further insults from anyone that throws stones at me here because they would be blocked from posting any more of it.
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> What I hear you saying is that my remedy helps you feel protected here. That's my intent, anyway.
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
You say that it is your intent to protect members, including myself, by applying your remedy to sanction statements that could put down or accuse another. But it is also then implying that if you use your option to not respond to me, that you will then not use your remedy to protect me from the stone-throwers here. There is a rational basis for me to think that because you say that you have a notification procedure to get from those that they think that a statement could induce harm to them if it is allowed to be seen as civil by you and that you will abide by your policy to act on the notification in one of two ways, but you give yourself the option of acting on notifications from me or not. By the fact that I have posted reminders to you here of outstanding notifications, those were the ones that you used your self-made rule to give yourself the option to not respond to notifications from me. What this shows goes to your intent in that you say that it is your intent to use your policy to prevent harm to members from posts that defame another, except posts of that nature directed at me as that it is plainly visible the years of {stone-throwers} that the subject here is of now. If you do not intend to protect me as the others here, that shows to a subset of readers a malicious intent against me in particular because you admit that your policy is to protect members from defamation by sanctioning posts of that nature as being accused or put down by a statement here. Yet today, there are years of outstanding notifications from me to you and posts directing harmful defamation toward me that are allowed to stand without your tagline to please be civil where the tortuous statement is originally posted. By you giving yourself the option, you also give yourself the option for harm to come to me, which subset of readers could think is your intent. They could have a rational basis to think that because you admit that your remedy to prevent the harm from tortuous statements is to sanction those type of statements, yet you allow those to be directed at me without sanctioning them with your tagline to please be civil where the statement is originally posted, which could mean to those readers that what you are doing here could be considered to be a malicious attempt to harm me by using the member's actionable posts to remain to be seen as civil by you by you not using your own policy to protect me. You say that there is not an excuse to allow uncivil posts, yet today, you have posted in one particular case that you have an excuse to not sanction defamation toward me bypostng your tagline to pleas be civil where the statement is originally posted, because you archived the post. But there could have been a notification from me about that statement as you admit. That could lead a subset of readers to further consider your actions toward me here to be malicious in your intent to harm me by allowing members to defame me here because it is reasonably foreseeable by your own admission, that there are natural consequences that you are making the decision to bring about, namely the harm that could come to me by you not using your own policy to protect me from the stone-throwers here by sanctioning the defamation posted at me here in the thread where the statement is originally posted to that statement, because it is within your power to use your sanctioning of the defamation toward me here, and you choose to allow it to stand because you say that it will be good for you and the community as a whole to ignore some of my pleas to sanction the anti-Semitic statements and the defamation directed to me here.
Now that you have in place that you can allow defamation directed at me here so that I am not protected, the additional consequences that flow naturally from allowing hatred to be posted against me here could lead a subset of readers to think that is what your intent is. They have a rational basis to think that because there are now additional reminders from me concerning more outstanding notifications which shows that you have not used your policy to protect me here which could lead to those thinking that you have an actual intent to allow harm to come to me.
I think that it could go a long way to preventing more harm coming to me from the defamation allowed to be posted here by you against the Jews and me here by you not posting your tagline to please be civil where the statement is originally posted, for you to go to your archives of notifications and start using your own policy that could protect me from the emotional/psychological harm that could come to me from your intention to allow some of my notifications to be ignored by you for it lies within your power to prevent harm by protecting me from the defamation by sanctioning those statements.
Lou Pilder
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