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Lou's reply- The Hsiung-Pilder discussion-hudehy » Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou Pilder on May 9, 2014, at 10:02:33

In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on May 9, 2014, at 9:24:37

> > You now say that repudiations from you could start a fire of hate. But without ... specifying how that could happen and without you specifying what subset of readers could have hate induced into them if you sanction the anti-Semitic statement in question
>
> I thought a subset of Semitic posters could have hate induced, or stoked, if I identified a post as anti-Semitic. Is that what you mean?
>
> Bob

Mr. Hsiung,
You wrote that a subset of Semitic posters could have hate induced, if you repudiated the statement, {No non-Christian will enter heaven}, and posted that the statement could lead a Jew to feel put down on the basis that the statement could be thought by a subset of readers to be analogous to:
A. No Jew will enter heaven
B. Only Christians will enter heaven, which are against your rules,
which is then an anti-Semitic statement on the basis that you agree that a statement that could lead a Jew to feel put down is an anti-Semitic statement, or a statement that puts down Jews is an anti-Semitic statement. The generally accepted meaning of the idiom, {put down}, is that a statement that puts down another faith is a statement that says that one faith is superior to another faith, or one faith is inferior to the other faith.
But the statement,{No on-Christian will enter heaven}, not only puts down Jews on the basis that the statement could mean that {only Christians will enter heaven}, but puts down Islamic people and all other people that have in their agenda of their faith that they can enter heaven as not being a Christian. Would not the statement be just as horrible for you to leave unsanctioned if you left, hypothetically, {No non-white person will enter heaven} to stand. In other words, for you to leave un repudiated, {No non-Christian will enter heaven}, a subset of readers could think that you are validating the statement as to think that Jews are an inferior race. And the statement hypothetically, {No non-white person will enter heaven}, if posted here and you allowed it to stand, could be thought by a subset of, let's say, people in religious and racial advocacy groups, to be analogous to hate being promulgated by you as that readers could think that you are ratifying the statement which could induce hatred toward non-white people on the basis that you state that you do what in your thinking will be good for this community as a whole. I see that you not posting a repudiation to {No non-Christian will enter heaven} as being just as horrible as if you were to leave the hypothetical statement, {no non-white person will enter heaven}, un repudiated. If you think that Jews and Islamic people would hate anyone if you posted a repudiation to {No non-Christian will enter heaven}, please state who those people could be and why, and then I will post my response to you.
Lou Pilder

 

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