Posted by Dinah on July 7, 2013, at 18:09:09
In reply to Re: posters who could use support, posted by Dr. Bob on July 7, 2013, at 17:03:14
> I thought she felt strong enough not just to continue posting here, but to fight for her daughter in real life. Yes, I find that rewarding. OK, it's primarily a win for her, but a win for a member of this community is also a win for this community. I take some pride in it because I moderate this site. Community members could take pride in it because they continually gave her inspiration.
And do you take responsibility when people do leave? When the pain here is too great, or the rewards not high enough to put up with the costs? Do you see that as a loss? Do you *feel* that loss? How many people do you think have left Babble over what's all over the current pages?
> Would you call the above "intrinsic"? I do feel it's sad to be powerless to effect the changes one wishes to see. Would you agree? I try to learn ways to cope and find the energy to persevere.
I *hate* being powerless when I see people are being hurt. I am not really strong enough to cope other than by disengaging. It just hurts too much.
> Thanks, I do take some pride in that, too. As you're well aware, I chose 4.) for a time myself.You can be duly thankful that our Sunday School lesson today was on generosity, and after speaking up firmly for the importance of generosity of spirit, it gave me a bit of a sense of humor about my participation recently on Babble. So I'll take that in the most generous spirit instead of interpreting it in my usual way of "Don't let the door hit you on your way out." I'm glad you've quit doing 4 quite so much. Babble needs you.
> In fact, what you have before you now is a minimal, flexible version of those administrative policies. With the option of a less minimal and flexible version. But for some, neither of those models will be just right.
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> Posters have always come and gone. A new model may not prevail by convincing its opponents, but rather because its opponents eventually go, and a new generation "grows up" that is familiar with it.I've always said that Babble couldn't be all things to all people. That you were *always* making choices about which type of people Babble would be for. I appreciated that in the wild west of the internet, Babble was a place for those who did value civility, who did look for someplace relatively safe.
Perhaps part of what I feel now is anger and hurt that you've made the choice to bring Babble in a new direction and appeal to a different group of posters. As if the ones who wish for civility and safety aren't the ones you're choosing now. Babble used to be welcoming, and is no longer.
I guess new posters would be your target audience, since old posters who disliked the old Babble will likely still remember it, and old posters who liked the old Babble for what it was aren't likely to like it now. So many of the people I care about are gone and aren't likely to return.
And you keep telling me not to let the door hit my *ss on the way out.
poster:Dinah
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