Posted by Dr. Bob on December 8, 2010, at 0:24:38
In reply to Re: uncivil posts » Dr. Bob, posted by gardenergirl on December 6, 2010, at 11:44:47
> It has been my understanding that the rules, as they are applied here, give little to no consideration to the actual truth. It seems what really matters ... is whether someone feels accused or put down.
I know it can be confusing. The Administration board is different in that its goal isn't support and education.
> > 4. I consider it uncivil to post information that one knows (or should know) to be false.
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> this is rampant here on babble
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> jammerlichIt is? Could you notify us of an example?
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> > > Did you consider conveying that information privately?
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> > 1. What would've been the point? She said her mind couldn't be changed.
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> I guess that depends on your intent. If your intent was to correct her statement to her, then doing it privately would be kinder.True, but what would've been the point of correcting her statement to her?
> > 2. If claims are posted, I think it's reasonable to post data that supports them (or doesn't).
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> Yes. But you could also simply post that your experience suggests otherwise, and even that one could examine the archives to see the posts themselves.Yes, but there's a difference between posting data and just posting that I have data or that data's out there.
> > 4. I consider it uncivil to post information that one knows (or should know) to be false.
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> Or should know? Yikes, methinks the bar just got set to a new level. I'm not sure I'm comfortable posting under the conditions of what I "should know." But I suppose you mean if you've previously told someone something, then they "should know". Is that what you mean?Right.
> > 5. We've been discussing how it's a long pattern of uncivil posts that leads to long blocks, and sometimes seeing is believing.
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> Why now, when you've resisted doing this in the past in order to avoid shaming someone excessively?My intent wasn't to shame anyone. My intent was to refute a false claim. Otherwise, false claims can lead to misunderstandings:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20101014/msgs/971577.html
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