Posted by Meri-Tuuli on June 30, 2007, at 11:53:34
In reply to Re: Power and status and deputies, posted by muffled on June 30, 2007, at 9:43:55
> **Yes they have the power minimally, but do they *abuse* it? they also always say that Bob can override their descicions, so ultimately, they have small power, cuz a person can complain to Bob(whom you stated is fair)and he can override their descions.
Well I don't think the details matter so much - the fact is that they do have more power than the non-deputy poster, and when there is an inbalance of power between two people, the relationship can never really be equal. It can try to be, but there is always the power inbalance in the background. So no matter how little power you might think the deputies have, they still have more power than the non-deputy.
And yes, I do think Dr Bob is fair.
>Bob is FAR more difficult to deal with than our deputies IMHO.
In what way?
>And I say OUR deputies, they are a part of our community.
I never said that they weren't part of our community.
> **They are human, the *art* of dealing with people will never be perfect or exact.
I never said they couldn't make mistakes or whatever.
>I wish Bob would lean toward the deputies ways, not the other way around. Bob is rigid and inflexible, I think he is honestly trying, but perhaps its hard for him.
Law enforcement is supposed to be rigid and inflexible, and fair to all. You still get arrested for shop lifting if did it because you were starving, than if you were just a bored teenager. Police, the law, law enforcement is supposed not to be lenient or to favour any particular party.
>The deputies show a GENERAL level of lenience, and they try hard not to show bias, they fully admit themselves that they are human. You WILL notice I magically escaped a block on a thread above where EVERYone else appears to have been blocked.....that was Bob...
Well Bob is clearly human too. I never said that deputies weren't human, or couldn't make mistakes. They try hard to minimize bias, but why are they then so against going anonymous?
> Yeah, I dunno bout the anonymity, to me it seems it might make it easier, but the deps seem to think its not such a great idea,Thanks for agreeing with me. I don't know why the deputies don't like it.
> He still does not tell us much however :-(What is he supposed to tell us?
> **Noone *forces* ANYone to do volunteer work, they do it to make a contribution to society.....you think I find it fun washing God knows what off the walls in a drop on center? Seeing fights there? Seeing people slowly go down over time, and die? Yet there I go.....I *want* to help. I beleive the deputies do it for the very same reason. I *don't* think its fun for them. The training process takes a long time. I want to help too,Good for you that you are doing volunteer work. I'm sure the deputies want to help - I never said they didn't want to help, did I?
>....but I just couldn't take the worry and the flack, I am not stable enough.
But do you think you might if you were anonymous? Any flank for acting as a deputy might be easier to take if it weren't directed at 'muffled' but rather at 'deputy_2' instead? Don't you think that it might be better to have flack caused by a deputies actions, aimed at a poster called 'deputy_2'? Rather than your personal posting name?
>well, like I said, I *thot* it a good thot, the anonymity. If for no other reason than, as you say, maybe there could be more deputies. I have some doubt though, for how long they would remain anon.... and speculation would run rampant, if they were babblers AND deputies....I think the level of distrust on babble would increase exponentially, for some don't wish to post to deps....Whats 'thot' mean? Why would distrust increase? And why would it do it expotentially? I don't think speculation matters. I think it would help everyone be more civil - you have no idea who the deputies are, so everything must be super civil because you don't know where they're lurking....and posters wouldn't be able to 'know' the deputies and therefore try to play up any advantages they might have over deputies.
> And its a long training process...
> And how would it *feel* to be posting AND an anonymous deputy???? I would feel like I was living a lie in front of my babble friends. I couldn't do that....Thats you, might not be the same for others. And why would it be a lie? Surely your conduct as a babble community regular poster should be no different than that of a deputy, ie civil at all times etc...
> So, its just not that easy Meri.I never said it was easy!
> We may just have to agree to disaggree....
> But I did post this post, for you, and others, so that you could understand *my* POV. Cuz this is what *I* have seen here. And I beleive theres truth in what I say.Well yes, point taken.
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