Posted by Cee on May 12, 2013, at 2:49:45
In reply to Re: Nardil best dozing time, posted by Tomatheus on May 11, 2013, at 14:43:06
Hello bigT
I guess I should learn to slow down and spell a bit better.it has been along time since I have talked to you as always thanks for the great info.anyways like I was saying I ran into a great pharmacist who said that she would do any thing in her power to find out about the missing compounds in Nardil and also why they changed the formula and also get the original formulation for the old Nardil ,I printed off the post that you did and gave it to her it seemed to help a lot. I am on 90 mg of Nardil 3t times a day and it seems to be working ok for me, I feel that I could still get a litle more out of it ,I did take the old Nardil once and I know that it was a lot more powerful and had a great feel to it. I have experimented with many different things to try and make the new Nardil like the old with out increasing my 90 mg dose.I have taken an ant acid 40minutes before my dose .I have tried enteric capsules without any great succsess. I have taken my Nardil on an empty stomach with any great succsess . But one night I decided to add some of the missing compounds in gelling caps ,honey ,sugar, corn starch, white wheat, talc, alcohol and my divided up Nardil which I also put in gelling caps. I took the compounds first and then my Nardil about 40 min later.wow in the morning I woke up and felt great just like the old Nardil used to feel when I was taking it. I felt euphoric and most happy. This feeling was great and only lasted about three days but this proved to me that it is the missing compounds that are making the new Nardil not as good as the old Putting Nardil into a enteric capsule does not work it is the missing compounds that make the difference.I have a pharmacist working on the missing compounds ,I will take the missing compounds in a separate gelling cap than the Nardil and then swallow them together. I hope that my spelling is ok and I am getting my point across it has nothing to do with the hard coating. The pharmacist told me that any body affected by the formulation change should write there health board or phizer and complain about the change in the old Nardil she said that her contact at phizer said it is the best way to make them go back to the old formulation. She said that it was hard for her to believe that they had changed the formula in the first place. I must give you a little history on myself and my struggle with anxiety and depression ,I find this site very helpful in understanding what people are going thru and how similar we all are in are struggle to feel better. My first anxiety attack happened when I was 18 years old it came out of no where and scarred the he'll out of me ,after a couple of months I started to feel all the symptoms of depression and made my first journey to a pdoc ,well it was the start of a anti depressant trail that lasted many years. Some how when I was about 24 I was put on a med called parnate wow for 18 years I lived my life with no anxiety or depression . Unfortunately after all those years the parnate stopped working and again I began ny death for another anti depressant to help with my bad symptoms.about 2002 after trying many meds my old pdoc decided to give Nardil a try for the first time. At that time my p doc decided to retire so I did not any guidance with the dosage of Nardil . I took 60mg for about 9weeks and wow wow wow, did it ever kick in it was one of the greatest feelings that I have ever experienced. Unfortunately I wasbpretty stupid with my dosing I took to much and it cost me a bout of seratonon syndrum .if it was not for a great doctor I had I would have been dead. After that episode I tried more of the new anti depressants which I did not have any luck with until I came across seroquel. This drug seemed to keep my depression in check for the most part ,but after a couple years it gave me really bad side effects and I had to come off the seroquel. About two weeks after stopping the seroquel I had a the worst deep dark depression of my life I came so close to jumping in the ocean and ending it all. I took my self down to emerg and they admitted me into the pyhyc ward for nine weeks , during that time they had put me back on the new Nardil and after six weeks the gave me thirteen episodes of ect. Well I don't know for sure if the ect helped but the Nardil did kick in about 85 percent. So hear I am trying to put my life back together again like so many of us on this website. I will keep trying to make the new Nardil work better and I will succeed Thank you for listening to an old guy. God bless. Cee
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