Posted by SLS on December 26, 2012, at 23:36:44
In reply to Re: Lifestyle, posted by DavidSmith on December 26, 2012, at 18:51:45
Words are important.
> When I started this journey with psychiatry
> (twenty years ago!), I often looked for the
> new or better medication which would help me.What was wrong with you such that you felt the need to take your first step into the world of psychiatry?
> I should have been looking at how I was living my life instead.
"Instead"? How did psychiatric treatment prevent you from looking at how you were living your life? I can do this while remaining in psychiatric treatment. I don't imagine that I am unique in this regard. Perhaps somatic psychiatric treatment was never appropriate for you.
> I relied on the medications to make me happy.
That was a mistake. Where did you get this idea from?
> Even though I found solace and stability in pills,
How so? From what did you seek this solace? What kind of stability did you find in pills? How did you know that you were more stable?
> I still kept myself removed from the world
> and perhaps that was my biggest mistake.I find that my illness separates me from the world. The depressive state is intrinsically isolating. It is not a matter of choice.
> Now my expectations are more realistic.
Your expectations *are* a matter of choice.
> After twelve therapists, I found someone I would
> listen to (THANKS DALE!).Dale must be a good match for you.
> Meds do have their place.
What is their place?
> But it is not appropriate for us...
"Us"? You and who else?
> ...to make detailed suggestions and combinations to people we meet online.
Why not?
> Christ, Buddah, whatever your preference.
Okay.
You wrote, "At 54, I finally realize that happiness and wholeness comes from serving others. If we put that within a Christian framework then it becomes obvious."
It might be obvious to *you*, but not necessarily to "we" or "us". If I do not choose to put happiness and wholeness within a Christian framework, would it thus never be obvious to me?
Whenever I see someone forcing the word "we" or "us" on others, I tend to wonder from where comes their need to include others in their indoctrinations.
I know, I know. You didn't force anything on anyone...
You and I aren't we. We are you and me. (I'll need to think about that one for awhile).
> I am impressed with the introspection g_g_g_unit has made.
Which one in particular has he made? Why are you so impressed with it?
For what it is worth, I am impressed with his g_g_g_unit's self-awareness and persistence. I am impressed with his determination in the face of many painful disappointments and for remaining receptive to new ideas. For me personally, if he were to find his healing in acupuncture, psychoanalysis, yogurt, or religion, I would be just as happy as if it were to come through one of SLS's treatment suggestions.
> They have all the tools to make the right choices for themselves.
I don't understand what you are saying here. Who is "they", what are the "tools", and what are the "right" choices compared to the wrong choices? I can't figure it out from context.
I need to stop here. I'm getting hoarse.
- ScottSome see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.- George Bernard Shaw
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