Posted by Shes_InItForTheMoney on August 8, 2011, at 6:57:15
In reply to Re: Meds are only a fraction of the answer » linkadge, posted by Shes_InItForTheMoney on August 8, 2011, at 6:23:34
> > >There's a big difference between someone who is >crippled by feelings of hopelessness and despair >and someone who hates thier job and resents >their family and doesn't know how to move on or >accept the situation.
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> > Yeah, but how do *you* know the difference between the two. I know a lot of clinically depressed people who put on a happy face, and downplay their own problems in public, but behind closed doors they really are clinically depressed. The kinds of information that is revealed to a physician may be very different than the kinds of information revealed to co-workers in public. So its not really possible for anybody to say...so and so is not *really* clinically depressed, they just need "therapy" and "acceptance" in their life.
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> > >I know a guy who is unhappy and confused about >is life, but not really depressed.
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> > Again...how do you know? Maybe the medications upgraded him from "clinically depressed" to "confused about his life"
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> People expect too much from pills. The truth is if your life circumstances where crud before meds, it's not going to be much different after taking meds. It's just small things that will change, like some sleeping habits, some energy, but everybody thinks meds should do all the work and people think they should turn into a superhero. Meds take away SOME symptoms...the rest is up to you.
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> JayAnd...."confused about life" is just part of being human. It is not a malady...c'mon! A couple of things....
Once people get a bit better on meds, therapy has been scientifically shown to hold it's own in scientific trials. I know as a social worker, talk therapy is very helpful for people, especially surrounding the sub-issues of abuse, alienation, lack of support network, f****ed up families, etc. Meds can lift the dismal basic lower brain dysfunctions and feelings behind depression and anxiety, but for many, only to a point.
The advanced human higher brain functions need more, and there is some really good research showing that not just therapy, but using higher brain capacity in exploring philosophy, different languages, and the whole experience of more advanced learning can stimulate the brain in protecting from further mental illness. I even know of a social worker in NYC who is working with a martial arts instructor to teach her clients martial arts. There is tons of support for the clients, and they come out feeling very much in control of their bodies and self and lives.
I know it is all not a simple answer, but man I know my time on earth will expire if I ever just wait around for some super-duper drug or combo to "save" me. We don't get these minutes back...they aren't "tacked" onto the end of our lives.
Jay
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