Posted by Ron Hill on August 16, 2010, at 19:10:23
In reply to Re: Nardil tips » Ron Hill, posted by angels78 on August 15, 2010, at 2:12:06
> I have a question for you if you dont mind about the B6. I read the article and I'm a little confused. Now, if B6 is NOT taken, does it effect the theurpatic effect of the drug?
Not to my knowledge. The issue is that the patient will become deficient in B6 which causes a plethora of problems.
> Or if taken at a correct dose, help with the therupatic effect of the drug?
If B6 is taken at the correct dosage (i.e.; not too much B6) then the effectiveness of your Nardil dosage will not be degraded (i.e.; reduced).
> I also read if taken too much, it can also effect the drug?
Yes! This is the issue. High levels of B6 reduce the level of Nardil. AND, Nardil destroys B6. Therefore, there is a "window" regarding the amount of B6 to take as a supplement.
> Can you shed some light into what is an amount to take of b6,
This is a very difficult question to answer. It probably varies from person-to-person. The best way is to get a blood test.
Print a copy of the article that I routed you to, and show your p-doc. If your p-doc blows it off, then get back to me via Babble-mail. If you are unfamiliar with Babble-mail, there are instructions on this site. I always leave my Babble-mail turned on.
> and reasons why you should while taking Nardil.
Because Nardil destroys B6.
As for me, I take 12.5 mg/day of sublingual P-5-P, the endogenous form of B6.
-- Ron
dx: Bipolar II with ultra rapid cycling, and mild OCPD600 mg/day oxcarbazepine (Trileptal)
200 mg/day lamotrigine (Lamictal)
500 mg/day Keppra (levetiracetam)
90 mg/day Nardil (phenelzine)
25 mg/day Valdoxan (agomelatine)
3.75 mg/day Deplin (taken with 2500 mcg/day of sublingual methyl B-12, and 12.5mg/day of sublingual P-5-P)45 ml of Carlsons Bottled Fish Oil
100 mg/day phosphatidylserene
Centrum Chewable Multi-vitamins; Only 100% of all the usual vitamins; NO VANADIUM!!
2000 IU Vitamin E
850 mg/day of Mg 212% of RDA (as 5 grams of Mg Malate).
Dark therapy via LowBlueLight glasses (When I remember)
Whats next to add?:300 mg/day of Lithobid
CoQ10
NAC, + 8 to 10 glasses of water, + Acetyl-L-Carnitine, + Alpha-Lipoic Acid, + Vitamin C
GTF Chromium
Cromium Picolinate
Cinnamon
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