Posted by Ron Hill on August 15, 2010, at 1:56:00
In reply to Nardil tips, posted by ambidexter on August 11, 2010, at 13:46:37
Ambidexter,
I commend you for getting out front of the Nardil side effects. Good for you!
Have you read the Prescribing Information document by Pfizer?
http://www.pfizer.com/files/products/uspi_nardil.pdf
Also, please note that there is a window for the amount of B6 to use:
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Phenelzine
In particular, pay special attention to the following excerpt:
"Phenelzine has also been linked to vitamin B6 deficiency. It reacts with vitamin B6 via an unknown enzyme to form a biologically inert metabolite. Both phenelzine and vitamin B6 are rendered inactive upon this reaction occurring. For this reason, it is recommended to supplement with vitamin B6 while taking phenelzine. High doses of vitamin B6 may significantly lower phenelzine levels and subsequently inhibit its therapeutic benefits, however, and thus, excess quantities of vitamin B6 should be avoided. It may be advisable to dose them separately during opposite intervals of the day (e.g., take one, then take the other 12 hours later) to avoid interaction as much as possible."
Ambidexter, I prefer to take sublingual P-5-P which is the endogenous form of B6.
-- Ron
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> I have been thinking about trying Nardil for generalized social anxiety for a while, and have read a bunch of stuff about it (some of it here -- thank you all for your posts).
>
> This week I finally took the plunge. A couple weeks before taking it, I started exercising 5x/wk and did Phase I of the South Beach diet. I'm hoping that I will be able to continue exercising and eating low carb, and that this will translate into less weight gain.
>
> In general, I'm trying to do what I can to minimize side effects. So as of the moment, I'm:
> -exercising
> -on Phase II of South Beach
> -eating a bowl of high fiber cereal daily
> -drinking green tea in the morning
> -taking fish oil capsules
> -gonna add a vitamin B supplement
>
> All of which I have read are good things to do, for various reasons?
>
> What do you guys think? What other stuff should I be doing or not doing?
>
> Do you think the timing of medication matters, or the pace at which you increase the dose?
>
> Thanks again to all of you and to Dr. Bob for the tons of information that I have already gotten from this forum. Any additional info is icing on the cake (oops, I mean, sugar-free dressing on the high protein salad) :-)
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