Posted by billy pilgrim on April 15, 2009, at 5:12:49
In reply to Re: Nardil Question » billy pilgrim, posted by myco on April 4, 2009, at 11:55:03
Yes bro it is helping a bit with the ladies ;)
> that should go for abit but will return later if you get any DA "downregulation". ive lost that rockin energy i used to get. you can add a stim here also...but dr's are usually not friendly with the idea of stim + maoi but you could bring it up...the lethargy and see about recommendations. he may say exercise which will help to some degree. coffee also (for me) in a way...DA sups (careful with dosing)I asked about this and on his advice tried Doxepin.
Trying to conquer sleep and lethargy in one hit, i gave it a shot.
It did the opposite to sedate me, it totally stimulated the shite out of me.The next day i felt like a bit of the fog had lifted and felt a teeny bit of remission, but the feeling only lasted a few hours.
It didnt give me the same feeling the next morning, so i stopped taking it(probably silly cause i didnt really give it any time at all to feel the real effects)
But i thought if im going to have a stimulating tca mabye i should try nortriptyline with nardil as people seem to like this tca much more.As a side note when i tried imipramine monotherapy i gave it 8 weeks and it made me very agitated and much more depressed.
Im hoping i will experience this energy from nardil, i mean the insomnia is there but no real drive to go out, make beats etc..
So im internal turnoil atm with nardil not kicking in... tcas.. DA agonists..wish i knew what would work well in augmentation!
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> > Myco do u think what you do with ur nardil eg. take it on an empty stomach, drink lots of water and avoid anything that creates more stomach acid for 45mins would also help with the aussie link nardil thats kept in the fridge?
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> Phenelzine "likes" alkaline conditions...your nardil has same active ingredient as mine...unless it states otherwise in your monograph or literature...you can take with water on empty stomach and no food. perhaps a b6 or folic acid to aid. phenelzine is phenelzine but not sure about inert ingredients though...buffers and things in the pill will adjust pH for stability. i dont think it matters much though...i notice no difference in nardil long run from that but it hits faster and harder with an empty stomach and water for me....it creeps up slow with food but still works.Thanks for that :) I notice that the nardil
euphoria im getting(but is so weak now it just feels like a weak anti depressant response that only lasts 1-2 hours and then im down in the dumps again) kicks in quicker when i do this!
> ah back to a question i had ages ago...i dont understand why you aussies keep it in fridge? is it because the climate you live in provides a bad opportunity for it to lose efficacy if you leave it out on the table? cant find any reason as to why my canadian nardil or your aussie nardil should be in the fridge...my monograph says 15-30C and yours is what 2-8C i think. weird....inert ingredients are not that diff. big big favour if you could find out the real reason for this :o) perty pwease lol
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I'll find get that precise answer for you as soon as i see my doc, seeing as u asked so nicley! ;)> I do 3 times a day. that was my regimen when i started and i havent changed it yet (30mg 8-9am area; 30mg 2-3pm area; 15mg 8pm area). That is recommended for beginners...the spacing...to minimize side from a heavy dosing. also some will take before 3pm to help prevent sleep issues.
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When i started on 45mg i was 3 times a day, i then went to 2 times a day for 75mg and then back to 3 times to see how that would feel.For some reason 2 times just seems to feel a bit better and provide random benifiets (like feeling a bit talkative all of a sudden) so im going to switch back to 2 times and hope i get theese random benefits again :\
> The 2pm thing might be nardil lethargy issue that sets in in the afternoon for many people. just lay down and chill for an hour or so and it usually passes leaving you pumped in the evening...enough energy for billy to go out 'birding' at night huh billy? lol
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LOL! Thats exactly what im hoping for man!> 3 times is a tad annoying but if youve been on for many months it doesnt matter what time...if you like take it all in the morning in one handful...well i shouldnt recommend that in case you react poorly to it but people do that. once mao has been inhibited, body used to nardil for months, timing means nothing really. your brain is well adapted.
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Cool im hoping 2 times a day will be just as good as 3 while my brain is adapting.
Just wish it would hurry up and kick in!
-Billy
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