Posted by JNew12 on October 16, 2008, at 10:55:30
I was just perusing the board, and came across a post where someone linked to study that was done using ritalin and maoi's in treatment resistant depression. I heard that the study went excellent, that there was no hypertensive crisis, and that everyone show a decrease in there HAM depression ratings.
I would very much like to give this study to my psychiatrist, hes a good guy and will prescribe MAO's unlike my other psych, but he is kinda stick by the rules guys, and if I can get a hold of this study I may be able to get him to change his mind, specially since I have severe ADD and Nardil does not treat ADD.
The link is found here, but does currently seems to be working for me:
Coadministration of phenelzine and methylphenidate for treatment-resistant depression.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14970373If someone can get a hold of the results published, or a similar study where I can print up and give to my doctor I would be forever grateful!
I want to try to get him to give me the kiddie Ritalin patches..lol There called Daytranna, I think if he would feel more comfortable giving me this time released Ritalin over the others, because if I start to have a bad reaction I can simply peel off the patch. Plus it is supposed to be totally non-abusable, not that I would abuse it in the first place, but at least this would give him reassurance.
If he found out I was taking Adderal he would flip. So, if I can kindly get him to give me this med, there would be no need to take adderal, plus I live Ritalin better in the first place.
If he says no to this, I may be able to convince him with non time released Focalin, since it's the non-racematic version of Ritalin (just like dexadrine is non-racematic version of adderal) I think taking just d-methypenidate, rather than taking d-methlyphenidate and l-methlypehnidate (ritalin) would be a whole lot safer, and probably at a low dose I don't see the need to contradict it with a MAOI at all.
Maybe one day they will update the list of medication you can take with MAOI's, like the did the list of foods they took off the restriction list, I know before they listed a whole ton more foods you could not eat.
Now, I believe if you stay away from over ripped fruit, anything old and moldy, a select cheese amount of types of cheese especially; blue cheese, but even some cheese like the kind on pizza, and pasteurized cheese should be alright to eat. No bologna, salami, and pepperoni though.
Coffee and chocolate is certainly ok in normal amounts, I don't think the amounts taken too induce a hypertensive crisis should be taken in the first place.
(am I missing something? I have these food not to eat remembered as I don't have time to look off a sheet everyday)
I did a experiment where I took my blood pressure, then I ate two pieces of double fudge chocolate cake, and then I drank two espressos, and early than evening I popped an Excedrin, which has about as much as caffeine as a cup of coffee. Later I retook my blood pressure, it was practically the same. Just to make sure it was ok, because I have been taking adderal also, I phoned my doctors office and they said it was a PERFECT blood pressure reading.
I am not saying here to push the envelope matter of fact, I am not bragging, I am just trying to point that chocolate and coffee, which most of probablt LOVE! Is safe to take in small to mid dose.
Never push the envelope too much while on a MAOI, I am new but I got enough sense to know it will kill you.
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