Posted by Jnew12 on October 17, 2008, at 19:31:13
In reply to Re: You are playing with FIRE!, posted by azalea on October 17, 2008, at 12:42:06
I agree that the doctors should know that I am on with medications. But,
What if I print a bunch of articles out, which have been provided to me here thats show that Stimulants and Maoi can be safe in all studies I have read that are involving a certain group of people and some studies even have a lot of participants. The only study that seems to be negative is the only one you are showin and that only involves a single person who had a reaction right away, not after 5 days.All others, and personal reports here I have read show safety and effectivness regarding mixing Maoi's and Stimulants.
What about this?
What if he gives it to me after showing him those papers and telling him about here? If that before reading the papers I print, he said no- just because he read it was bad in his book. What happens if because after what I read here on this this site and came to the conclusion it was safe, and instead of getting him to give it to me I had to get it from another doc who agreed that I indeed have ADD and needed ADD medication give it to me. What if he reads that same papers read the same papers, and came to the conclusion it may be safe, like I did, and gives it to me, than how would that be different than now, other than him now knowing that I was taking adderal?If he does agrees to give it to me after I show him the printed information all that will change is that he knows that I am on it, and that his book is wrong in some cases, and that some people like me can take it.
In both cases he knows nothing that will make it more safe, or effective, and both cases I am taking it.
Now he may not know that I am taking it, but I am not getting negative results that one would need to stop taking it, only positive.
So, how is this going to be different than now, if he lets me use this medications instead of me taking it on my own?
What I am trying to say is the only thing that will change is the opinion of whether it is safe to take, letting my psych know makes the combination and safers, either dos finding one who will give it to me in my eyes.
Hasn't it already been ruled that in some cases it is allright to take, or am I missing something?
In positive regards to my doctor, even though right now I disagree w/ his choice that adderal is not safe w/ nardil I do not think, like some have mentioned he is a bad doc for giving me everything I want. I don't think he would give me everything I want anways, he is not right now giving me adderal and nardil. He is just giving me Nardil and Benzo's which I asked for and he told me no problems, and considering what I have been through, and how much meds I have taken, and the severity of my condition I think that makes him a good doc for giving them to me. My other doc would never give me Nardil, never, even after trying 6 medicines that did not work because he was too afraid of trying it. And so what if he makes me sign something saying I won't sue him if something does happen, all doctors are worried with being sued, and with this med there is a chance even if slim something may go wrong, atleast he is better than my other psych and actually willing to give me a med that can save my life.
So I you say I am playing with fire, but if what I read here, and on goverment, and scientific jounals are true and you can mix the two, I would say it's hardly a a fire, And a fire that can save my live, other than take it. The bigger fire right now seems to having social anxiety along with bad ADD.
If I do continue with these medications, that if I do, I only plan to stay on a low dose of adderal, not not take more than 60mg of nardil, and I am being monitored by both doc regularly, more than most docs due-twice a week.
I also have been monitoring my blood pressure with a program that records it everydays with a monitor machine. Everything it recorded has said to be normal but I had one day that said prehypertension that was today when I measured it, it was 117 over 82, but still I think that is pretty normal.
I have had pulse has been higher than 100 never going over 120 even when I exercise, I don't know if that is normal or not but I think a high pulse is pretty normal if you are on stims, I did not have a reader but I know my pulse was high when I was taking ritalin, and mixing ritalin w/ exercise would produce a high pulse.
The only side effect is that is not normal before is that I get really hot, is there a way to tell if this is out of the normal?
I also eat all the right food that I am supposed too, have never taken a restriced food.. I even go as far to scrap the cheese off sandwhiches although other say that some of the restrictions go to far. I would say I am over cautious, or cautious enough I would never do nothing I ever read was not ok. I also stay away from all restricted medication (other than adderal, because I read other taking it) and I have never taken a restricted over the counter medication, or herb. I do not have a death wish.
This combination seems to be working perfect. And as I said I would hate to change it especially when nothing seems to point I am having a bad reaction. If I started to get hyperstension and or a headache I would go to a hospital as soon as I could.
Also like I said I have so much people tied up with my ADD med Adderal I even have my teacher filling out forms. She is happy that im on it too.
Everyone.
Do you know how hard it is to find a doctor to prescribe a MAOI?
Do you know how hard it can be to find a doctor to prescribe Adderal?
What about a MAOI and ADDERAL combined, I think I would having a better chance of hitting the lottery.
This board is the same boar who convinced me to taking it might be ok, this is the same place where I heard other member trying it, and now you are saying I am playing with fire, what about the rest here who tried it?
Arent they playing with fire too, or no just because there doctor is aware?
Like I said the combo of meds is working good for my social anxiety and ADD. To take away this combo would erase 10 years of trying to find the right combination and not being able to do so.
I will continue on taking it, I might stop BUT in the mean time I am going to show the Doctor the articles I got here, and also show him post by people who take the combination, if he does not agree. does anyone know a doctor in michigan willing prescribe both??
I guess if you guys think I am playing with fire too much, I will drop the Nardil, instead of the Adderal, even though it took so long to find someone willing to give it to me, and I am so happy that I got something that will actually work on Social Anxiety.I guess I continue to use Xanax/Klonopin for the Social Anxiety even though I wanted to cut down, so I don't get phsycially addicted again, but it's better than being dead.
Like, I said with the Adderal, without meds I have ADD so bad that I might flunk school if I dont get help. I have everyone wrapped up with my ADD meds, my parents, my grandparents, and teachers all filling out forms for me to give to my doctor. The teacher, and my grandparents are happy that I am taking this med because I guess my symptoms are irritating them, my teacher even told somebody.
If I quit Nardil I am giving up a pretty good psych, and I am going to probably get depressed, and have social anxiety again, which is going to be a problem for me.
If stop taking it because my psych wont give it to me, and I don't find a psych that will give it to me, continuing on with this improvment my chances are close to nill.
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