Posted by UGottaHaveHope on March 26, 2007, at 1:04:51
In reply to Re: To U Gotta Have Hope, posted by Sandra62 on March 25, 2007, at 15:48:40
For all the hopeless out there, please read this post a few weeks ago from Blueberry. It's one of the greatest ever on this board. Think outside the box, folks!
Note: I take a MAOI, and adding Ultram would probably be very bad. Seek advice from your medical professional ... or ask Blueberry
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FROM BLUEBERRY1
> To answer your questions and share my thoughts with all here...
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> Tramadol is about 75% relief of depression, fear, and anxiety parts of the day, and 100% relief at random times of the day. Anxiety...I used to sit in the break room at work, silent and in fear. Now I sit comfortably and actually talk with people. The following is a list of things I could previously not do, but I do now with even a tad of enthusiasm...cooking, cleaning, laundry, grocery shopping, working, taking care of family members, being in conversations with people, smiling sometimes, watching TV, playing guitar, stuff like that.
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> What made me try it was comments from others at remedyfind.com, askapatient.com, and here. So many people (mileage does vary) said they had tried everything, and that nothing compared remotely to tramadol. Side effects first day were insomnia. Second day the opposite, somnolence. Third day and continuing, delayed orgasm and that's it. No other side effects. Sex drive seems a bit stronger.
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> Unlike everything else, it did not make me worse right away. It kicked in on day 3. I am not taking any other drugs with it. Just 25mg once a day. Also take a spoonful of cod liver oil and a multivitamin. I want a new vitamin without copper because I have read that copper is one of the most toxic unrecognized common nutrients involved with psychiatric disorders. Almost all have copper. Geez.
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> After piss-poor care from 5 psychiatrists, 2 GPS, and a specialty nurse practioner, I gave up on them. After thousands of dollars and 10 years I had no progress to show, and actually significant deterioration instead. Tramadol was my own decision and pretty much a last resort. Since all norepinephrine drugs make me much much worse, I expected bad things. I was surprised.
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> Tramadol's opioid action is in question because opioid blockers do not completely block it. Plus, I feel no euphoria, buzz, or rush at all. I also wonder about it's snri action, because ssris and snris take weeks to work, but tramadol works in hours or days instead.
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> Tolerance and dependence are issues. But this whole board deals with those issues with every drug known to man. To hopefully keep those risks at bay I'm reading what longtime users have done. Some stay with the same constant dose year after year with no probs. Some take a day or two off each week.
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> Prozac, lexapro, depakote, lithium, zoloft, cymbalta, zyprexa, seroquel, st johns wort, xanax, klonopin, lorazepam, adrafinil, provigil, ritalin, adderall, amisulpride, tianeptine, milnacipran, and I know I forgot a handful of them...oh yeah, ECT also...none even come close to comparing to tramadol. Matter of fact, they all made me worse real fast. Tram is the standalone one that did not.
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> I must give credit where it is truly due. It does not belong to tramadol, a doctor, or me. It belongs 100% to God of the Bible. This probably should be on the spiritual board. Spiritual warfare is very real, very powerful, and constantly in motion. One prayer in the morning is like shooting a rifle once in the morning during a war and that's it for the day. God wants me, us, to surrender to Him completely and lay it all at His feet. He wants to show us His glory and power. But we have to submit our total weakness, obey, and whole-heartedly welcome His Holy Spirit to dwell with us in every moment. Constant prayer is more help than any drug.
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