Posted by Quintal on February 20, 2007, at 15:57:10
In reply to Re: Are MAOIs ever ineffective? » UgottaHaveHope, posted by Chairman_MAO on February 20, 2007, at 14:25:28
>Given the choice of taking something that's been around for a half century (going on longer now, if you count iproniazid and isoniazid, millenia if you could the harmala alkaloids, which are RIMAs, but hallucinogenic) and something that's been on the market for 5, I'd go with the one with the track record any day.
I agree. That's why I think that Gillman is unfair to dismiss the entirety of herbal medicine by comparing and extrapolating toxicity during the use of Foxglove digitalis extracts in heart disease to herbs like St. John's Wort used to treat emotional problems. I don't think that level of precision is as important when using herbal medicines for this purpose, and most herbal medicines are now available as standardised forms anyway.
I have in my possession samples of Psychotria viridis and B.cappi. I'd be interested to hear your experiences with them (assuming you have used them?). I think it would be better to take them in ritual setting the first time, rather then alone or with a sitter (my choice of sitters are limited), though my social phobia is a barrier to attending such rituals.
>I will begrudgingly admit for the sake of argument that I have used intravenous cocaine and methamphetamine while taking an MAOI. While I do not recommend this practice, it goes to show you that the reality is not nearly as bleak as you'd be led to believe.
I used illicit amphetamine paste myself while taking Parnate. I took it sublingually in tiny amounts at first. It's refreshing to hear someone else who has done similar. I've been reluctant to post here telling people of that because of the reactions I suspect it might provoke.
>This is a very short period of time to wait if you've been suffering from dysthymia since age 12 and social phobia since birth.
Which MAOI do you find most effective? Nardil is as yet the only one I haven't taken. I might be able to get my GP to prescribe it for me if I am persuasive enough. Have you tried cyproheptadine to see if reverses the sexual dysfunction caused by Nardil? That's the one side effect I cannot tolerate.
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