Posted by BarbaraCat on August 3, 2004, at 12:27:37
In reply to MORPHINE- and derivitives for depression » paulbwell, posted by pablo1 on August 1, 2004, at 15:55:34
I have used both GHB and the Holosync tapes and would like to share my experiences.
GHB primarily made me sleepy. It did not have the touted euphoric effects whatsoever. It was, however, a very good sleeper. I can't imagine doing anything BUT sleeping on it. It's supposed to increase human growth hormone as well, which is a good thing. I got it from a few different sources, so the lack of the touted effects were not due to a bum batch. I found no problem whatsoever getting off it when my supply ran out, right about the time it became a federal crime to own it.
The exhorbitant price the pharm companies are getting from the GHB analog is preposterous. Before it was placed in class 1 or 2 drug status, it was ridiculously easy to get the chemical compounds to make it yourself (I never did, but know of folks who did). But this is not the case any longer. I did not notice any antidepressant effect at all. This might just be my chemistry, but I was fairly underwhelmed after all the hype I'd read.
Holosync: I did not like it at all. The theory is based on Nobel prize winner Ilya Prirogine's chaos structure theory in that systems will undergo a disorganizing chaotic dissonance before settling into a coherent pattern. This is fine in theory, but I found that the unsettling disorganizing principle in these tapes/CDs never resolved into anything but anxiety. I liked the very first in the series, but afterwards, despite the babbling brook and windchimes, there's something going on in the background that felt like nails on a blackboard.
A few friends went through the whole program and found it beneficial, however. The cost is exhorbitant. I get much more benefit from my good old mantra meditation which leaves me feeling centered and peaceful. I also practice a Buddhist mindfullness meditation at times when I need extra focus. My life works so much better when I keep a regular meditation practice. I don't think there are any shortcuts to this state, no high-tech methods are going to get you there any quicker, no matter what they say. But you don't really need a shortcut. The benefits become apparent pretty quickly without any special gear. That's the beauty of it. Whatever practice you decide upon (preferably low-tech), the secret is to just sit yourself down every day and do it. - Barbara
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