Posted by chemist on July 10, 2004, at 11:09:54
In reply to Re: Parnate or Nardil is there a difference? HELP, posted by KaraS on July 10, 2004, at 2:48:40
> > > > > Just looking for some input from those of you that have taken Parnate and Nardil. What is the difference and which is the best way to go? I have read many articles and info about them and opinions vary. Some say Nardil is the very best and others say start with Parnate it has less side effects. I will be taking it for severe SAD, depression, and avoidant personality disorder. Presently taking Paxil and in the process of going off of it. Not easy to do. Anyones input would be greatly appreciated
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> > > > hello there, chemist here....i took 10 mg parnate tid for a spell a few years ago, coincidentally after very negative experiences with paxil. i found parnate to be just fine - i believe i was pushing the 2 year mark - and tapered off of it in a timely and painless manner when things leveled out. there is quite a lot of support from folks more in the know in re: MAOIs on this board, and the concensus seems to lead towards nardil. can't say i've taken the latter, but there seem to be a lot of folks quite pleased with it, and i certainly had a good ride with parnate. you might direct a post to sad panda, ace (especially ace, he's the nardil champ), and larry hoover (larry just plain knows a lot of stuff about a lot of stuff) and you might get a more equivocal answer than mine. all the best, chemist
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> > > Do you mind my asking what other things have worked for you? If something like Parnate was successful for a while, then I'm thinking that you have similar issues as me (despite our different genders - LOL) in terms of needing energy and motivation. Have you ever been able to go back on something (a long time later) that has previously worked for you? If something poops-out once then is it ever an option again for you or for people in general? It has been hard enough finding something that will work for me - I'd like to think that if I did find something and it stopped working, that it might be an option again in the future.
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> > > P.S. Do you know of anyone who has found a miracle "cure" and stayed on it for the rest of his or her life and then lived happily ever after? (If the answer to this last question is "no", then please lie to me.... kdding of course.)
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> > hello there, chemist here....i apologize for the tardiness in responding to your post. other things that have worked for me (defined as very positive experiences) are - and i mean all the way - luvox, dexedrine, xanax, ambien, and trileptal. in the second tier, i would rate valium, dalmane, restoril, halcion, paxil (briefly), and topomax as adjunct therapy. at the bottom of the barrel are buspar, neurontin, gabatril, remeron, depakote, geodon, and celexa (this was before lexapro, but still....). i never went back to anything except xanax and luvox. and kept the dexedrine. xanax is clean, quickly eliminated, and addresses anxiety/panic. dexdrine offsets the xanax a bit but addresses focusing (as with the rest of the gang, there is always that ``maybe you have adhd'' dx but the jury is out). and luvox - which is only available as generic until sovay's NDA gets the green light from the FDA hopefully this year - is a very broad spectrum SSRI from the old-school, approved for OCD but not for depression. as for success stories, i like to think of a few chums of mine who have followed the advice i give myself: if a med is not working, be assertive, take matters into your own hands, taper slowly, and switch pdocs if required. my own ``happily ever after'' story is that i am quite comfortable on my meds and with my therapist, so take that for what it's worth. i have accomplished my personal goals in the timeframe i wanted to; there have been impediments, both internal and external; yet here i am. so that is that. all the best, and please do let me know if any of this is a help, i might``refer'' you to another poster depending on your condition as is my habit....chemist
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> Thank you, Chemist. It did help me in the sense that I realized we are not going to respond to medications in the same way. So much for my earlier theory. Luvox made me nauseous and it didn't go away. I haven't had much success with the SSRIs in general. It seems that you're most concerned with anxiety control. That isn't my problem now though it has been at times in the past. (I'm surprised that you were able to tolerate the Parnate.) I'm glad that you are doing so well now and I wish you continued success and happiness.
> KaraShello there again....yes, we all have our different issues and biochemistries. i wanted to add that, in addition to your observation as such, that the process is rather long and convoluted. i've been on some meds for as short as 1 week (depakote, geodon) or as long as 10 years (xanax). and the recipe always changes, except xanax remains invarient. as for parnate, it was exceptional for me, and do keep in mind that i always have been on xanax (well, there was a brief, ca. 1.5 year switch to valium, but close enough), so the sometimes stimulating effects of parnate were blunted. as for luvox, the nausea is not uncommon, and there is a very wide dosing range, and slow titration is recommended. i am not a fan of SSRIs - i do quite prefer MAOIs - but luvox is doing the trick right now. in any event, good luck on your quest for the ``right'' med(s)....all the best, chemist
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