Posted by utopizen on September 21, 2003, at 15:26:08
In reply to Re: You're taking way more than you think » utopizen, posted by Ame Sans Vie on September 21, 2003, at 2:20:45
I know he didn't cite euphoria, but I'm perplexed as to why anyone would go to the lengths of using the most criminalized drug in the country (since the amphetamine act of 2000) if they were truly using it for "therapeutic" purposes. As if it's not available from a doctor, this isn't pot we're talking about.
If he isn't using it for euphoria, what then? That's very suspicious-- why would someone do such a thing, not tell a doctor, have a prescription? I find it either hard to believe or a poor idea, either way, it's not something to condone.
Even if his health isn't at risk, that ignores the fact that a very small amount equals a minimum jail sentence of many years. And he may know the purity, etc., but no one ever knows if someone is looking to get off on a drug charge by informing the cops of a drug buyer.
How many feel confident over their "drug of choice" because of its purity when they see flashing blue lights in front of them as they hold a brown lunch bag containing just enough meth to put off their plans for the next 5 years?
Great, then we get to talk about what drug's the most effective for PTSD 5 years for him from now.
Nevertheless, let's not forget insomnia is not typical in Desoxyn users, so let's not be so certain here. It's generally time-related, like taking it before 6, you won't have an issue. And let's ignore the idea that taking it orally in pill form and taking it orally in powder form wouldn't change the pharmakinetics. Geez, of course it would! And let's not even act like he's taking it any other way.
And by the way, l-methamphetamine does induce insomnia, for the love of psychohpharmacology! It just has more side-effects, less therapeutic benefits. Emphasis on MORE SIDE-EFFECTS. Isolating the d-isomer is very complicated, it's not as simple as pretending the l-isomer didn't do anything, it did do something, but mostly induce side effects more than treat the problem it was given for. *That's* why it often means you can halve the dose when you have a d-isomer drug, but that isn't relevant to this case, because in this case we're exclusively concerned about SIDE-EFFECTS, not therapeutic benefits, and these are MOSTLY RESPONSIBLE from the l-isomer, hence why Desoxyn (d-isomer) is signifigantly less likely to induce side effects. Same thing with Adderall vs. Dexedrine, Dex is less likely to induce side effects, insomnia, than Adderall, at equivalent doses. Adderall's 75% l isomers.
We're on a board that continiously questions generic vs. brand name drugs, and you're suggesting d, l methamphetamine HCL and d-methamphetamine HCL are equivocal? There's about a hundred different ways to make it, and even the head chemist at Abbott that perfected its procurement advanced its state after it was on the market for two decades.
Purity, insomnia, these are the least of one's worries. These are the worries of good luck, these are worries that you wish you might have the moment you are arrested for possession.
And okay, so you didn't think of all the things I though of, that's okay, but that's also why we are cautious about our own thinking, that's why we see doctors, not drug dealers...
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