Posted by utopizen on September 17, 2003, at 20:30:32
In reply to Ambien/Sonata with Methamphetamines, posted by Chawner on September 17, 2003, at 17:43:14
Okay, it is a misnomer to suggest that meth on the street is even meth to begin with. If you're lucky, it's 10% meth. If you paid lots of it, trust/know the dealer, and it's an unusual case, it might be as high as 30% meth. The rest are adulterants, which are likely responsible for much of the side effects. Many of the side effects may also be attributable to the lack of sleep many users experience, poor nutrition as a result of appetite supression, etc.
Insomnia+no food alone will kill you very quickly, but before that will give you terrible effects. So I would be cautious to blame meth so much. Heck, even during withdrawl, you have no idea what you're mostly withdrawing from-- likely amphetamine, not methamphetamine, that comprises most of the product sold. And other things. It's cheaper, and you'll never know, that's why.
I use Desoxyn, which is methamphetamine HCL. I don't abuse it, do not have any side effects whatsoever, absolutely none.
I've been able to skip entire days though, in fact I haven't used mine for several days, because of my use of Xyrem. This may relate more to my underlying sleep disorder and its effects on my ADD symptoms.
I have a slightly problem a few days ago, my doc hadn't given me my refill for it, and Xyrem was helpful for my sleep, but I had to read a particularly hard book that gave me trouble concentration wise... and it also made my sleepiness a bit more noticable. I've since then gotten my refill, though.
And Xyrem, it's interesting. But the real effects on reducing daytime sleepiness occur after 6-8 weeks of regular nightly use (2 doses/night totalling 4.5mg-9mg). It should not be used during the day, and should not be used without a doctor's prescription and supervision.
I've gone the entire day today without Desoxyn because of Xyrem, and have had my concentration increase and my sleepiness dramatically decrease.
As for Ambien, other hypnotics-- I have had to use them, for reasons unrelated to Desoxyn use, when I had transient insomnia over the summer. I haven't had insomnia since, so haven't used it. But it has absolutely no interaction. Street meth, it probably would, because again, it's high doses of meth, high doses of pathetic adulterants, you're not eating properly, you're not sleeping at a set pattern and at a 9-10 hour duration each night, your nutrition is likely inadequate, etc.
Has nothing to do with Ambien, Ambien will just be poorly tolerated to things your doing to your body that you shouldn't be tolerating yourself in the first place. When a sleeping pill has higher standards for how your body's condition is than you do, you need to think about that, not blame Ambien.
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