Posted by freedom2001 on July 13, 2003, at 20:18:44
In reply to Re: COCKTAIL TREATMENT FOR CHRONIC OCD, posted by avid abulia on July 13, 2003, at 15:03:01
> > > > > > Use Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
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> > > > > Not sure about this Freedom...depends on the person. For many OCD'ers can make them much worse.
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> > > > > I think your sports idea is great, but I'm sure if thid would have even an inderect influence on OCD, other than just distraction from the thoughts. I've been meaning to ask this a long time: what other drugs have you tried besides prozac?
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> > > It made me MUCH worse. To me I was scratching a wound (the OCD). In my opinion words can't heal broken legs or broken brains (chemical imbalances) . Just my opinion.
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> Perhaps what made you worse was too high of an intake of zinc? Zinc acts as an allosteric negative modulator of GABA receptors, among it's many other neurological effects--in otherwords, it limits the effect that stimulation of GABA receptors will have. Several drugs used to treat OCD, including Depakote, clonazepam, and Keppra, reverse this particular effect of zinc. An increase in copper (through dietary sources, supplemental copper is fairly dangerous--blackstrap molasses is a rich source, as are avocados and chocolate, probably a lot of others as well, i'm not sure... and citrus fruits increase copper absorption.
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> As regards words fixing broken brains--one must remember that fMRI studies have proven that different types of thoughts produce different areas of greater or lesser activation in the brain, so CBT has laboratory back-up as well as a great deal of clinical back-up as a potentially successful technique for helping to re-establish more normal brain function.
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> A lot of times, i wonder just how much the chemical imbalance theory has worked against psychiatric patients... i mean, it has obviously worked for us, as regards the stigma of mental illness, but i wonder just how much of a negative placebo effect it has caused--a reversal through belief of something that might otherwise help--because so many people think that, because the problem is biological, it cannot be helped with behavioural therapies. It would seem quite obvious to me that if the biology is producing aberrant behaviour/emotions, it could work both ways... modification of behaviour/emotions could produce a modification of aberrant biology.
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> My 2 cents on the matter, anyway.
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> ~AABut from what I have read, zinc seems to help OCD. Or does higher intakes of zinc worsens OCD?
"Generally, OCD patients respond nicely to methonine, SAMe, calcium, magnesium, B-6, Inositol, TMG, and zinc. Most OCD patients get worse if given supplements of DMAE, choline, copper, or folic acid.
Mary Reed, Herbalist
http://www.marysherbs.com/";
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