Posted by Phil on September 6, 2002, at 7:15:18
In reply to The Evil Pharmaceutical Empire, posted by Martin Johnson on September 5, 2002, at 23:21:18
> Can't you people see that these unnatural anti-depressants aren't the answer?! There seem to be more side-effects than success stories. Effexor, Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Xanax, Welbutrin, and whatever else are all pretty new drugs, which mean the long-term effects for all are unknown. We've all seen the many short-term side-effects involved,yet when we go back to the doctor complaining, he will simply up the dosage or change to another drug all together. What's with that? This stuff doesn't even belong in our/your bodies to begin with. These are chemicals synthesized in a laboratory. The only reason we take them is because they seem like a good "quick fix" solution, and also because you aren't familiar with the many alternative methods that you will never see on TV or hear from most doctors.
_______If you go thru the archives, we've discussed everyting from massage, to herbs to coffee beans. Believe me, it's a long list.
___________The pharmeceutical industry is the highest grossing industry in the world, daily, weekly, yearly; even more than the oil industry. There is an extremely agressive market for anti-depressants, so doctors have no choice but to precribe it to every other depressed individual who comes into their office. Yes, even if its not safe or healthy, they'll shove it right down your throat. Look at all the commercials and ads etc. They want you to take this stuff so bad. Why? Because it dumbs you down.
_______Many people are dumb to begin with. So you're saying that they get us good and dumb so they can give us more drugs?
That way they can continue to perpetuate their pharmaceutical empire while no one notices or cares. Its money in their pockets folks. That's what it all comes down to. And we were all gullible enough to fall for it. Shame on us!
_______Actually a psychologist was smart enough to recommend a psychiatrist to me 20 years ago for medication. Want to know where I would most likely be without it?
____________Their has not been a soul on this earth throughout history who has not been depressed. Before anti-depressants what did people do? They dealt with it! They kept truckin' on.
_______They killed themselves, were thrown into mental hospitals, given lobotomy's, ECT without the benefit of a muscle relaxant or anesthesia. Many were outcast; written off by society. The list goes on partner.
So if I were suicidally depressed and you were my doctor, what would you recommend? Pull yourself up by your bootstraps?_________
Time heals, life continues.
_________Go to a diabetes website, tell them that insulin is evil and all they need is time.
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Their are so many other ways to treat or cure depression. Natural safer ways:
> Excercise! Excercise! Breathe... meditate... eat healthy.. never eat fast food... breathe.. take vitamins.. if you don't have much energy, try ginseng and ginkgo biloba, st. john's wort, passionflower, mugwort, skullcap, gotu kola. There are so many ways. Consult an herbalist. You'd be surprised. Eating healthy and excercising I believe are the best solutions. But don't just excercise for 1hr a day and sit for the rest. Don't live sedentarily. Move around, imagine... TURN OFF THE TV!Not bad advice if you're not catatonic. Many people can't even get out of bed much less eat 100's of dollars in herbs. Which are drugs that can kill you and need a lot more study. I agree with some of your thoughts but I don't think you are very familiar with severe depression.
By the way, I don't watch TV.
> Its funny how some doctors will tell you that you have a chemical imbalance in your brain or body which is the reason for your depression, and that the only solution (money)is to prescribe anti-deppressants. The most likely reason for any chemical imbalance is from living a sedentary life-style, not eating healthy, oversleeping, undersleeping, and even not so favorable personal experiences.
________Once again, let's blame the patient for his problems.
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I'm not a doctor but I've seen what these evil drugs can do to people. Many of my friends who've resolved to taking these A.D.'s have become worse than they were to begin with. Its so sad to see how our physicians and family doctors have betrayed us. I had a friend who was in the hospital waiting to get a cast on his leg. Across from him was an unconscious patient in the process of surgery. There were two doctors who were operating on him.They hardly payed him any attention while they chuckled on about their expensive cars and big mansions, not being able to wait to get to that nice green golf course. I know that not every doctor is this way, but it does show how pervasive money can be for anyone at any level of society. That's all for now. Heed my words of inspiration, observation, and revelation... for what their worth.
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> Thanks, but for now, I'd rather listen to my body and my very caring doctor.
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>Phil
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> P.S. Checkout the movie Requiem for a Dream.
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