Posted by rick_number1001@yahoo.com on August 27, 2001, at 2:20:17
In reply to Re: Doesage of Adrafinil - all, posted by SLS on June 18, 2000, at 19:46:54
I haven't heard Mitch.
The Dr. who I was taking 90mg Nardil under told me that Nardil
is statistically safer than penicillin. Also, that those
who develop hypertensive crisis with Nardil normally already
have some sort (I don't remember what) of heart problem and
there likely would be a problem occuring later anyway.I would point out that Medline searches will show that hypertensive
crisis in the last 10-15 years are difficult to find
Much easier to find are all sort of other problems, serotonin syndrome
with SSRI and other serotonin combos (or even Paxil alone),
(serotonin syndrome is often deadly). Viagra alone killed something
like over a 150 in a few months didn't it?Frankly, I eventually tried stimulants, Wellbutrin, yohimbine,
and other dopaminergics/noradrengerics with Nardil and generally
if I got any reaction my blood pressure tended to down a bit.
(Blood pressure cuff).Unfortunately many doctors are so unfamiliar with MAOI's
and often even benzodiazepines.MAOI's are not a first choice for normal depression,
because Prozac frankly usually does the job.It is a shame that MAOI's get such bad press.
The best Dr. (run universities, researchers, etc)
typically are the ones pointing out how much
underused Nardil and Parnate are.Many good Dr. claim there most robust responses
to a variety of disorders with MAOI's, often
Parnate simply with a low dose with if anything
is prosexual.OK - end of babble.
By the way, that Joe Schmoe guy sounds like he
is afraid to go for good results. I would ask
him why he is so negative, critical,
and what his productive ideas are, but I know
how these guys are. They just want attention
for there complaints.BTW, personally I did get fed up with Nardil
after 2 years at 90mg. Only 1 side effect,
sexual side effects but as I said nothing like
most SSRI's, even 20mg Celexa was worse.Now I keep Nardil at 60 and augment. Keeps
side effects minimal, sexual side effects no
problem. Results good.Lots of options, Nardil is not required.
Rick_number1001@yahoo.com
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> There are transdermal patches of phenelzine, and I believe tranylcypromine (parnate), that are supposed to be in clinical studies right now. I would really want to try an MAOI, but my doc says NO. The patches are supposed to be a way of bypassing the gut so you don't have the diet restrictions, but still would have to be cautious about drug interactions. Does anybody know what the status of these patches is??> > It sounds like the problems Nardil causes are in the body while the benefits are in the brain.
> >
> > The scientists need to develop some way to make a MAOI that only works in the brain and is not utilized by the rest of the body. Maybe some second pill that you take an hour later that destroys the MAOI, but that cannot cross the blood-brain barrier.
>
> > Hi John.
>
> Thanks for such a comprehensive post.
>
> I was wondering what the problem is with combining St. John's Wort with Paxil?
>
> Also, when the comparisons are made between SJW and tricyclics, is there any particular mechanism being referred to, such as reuptake inhibition?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> - Scott
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