Posted by adamie on August 17, 2001, at 21:00:56
In reply to Re: Stimulants take how long to work? Adamie, posted by JohnL on August 17, 2001, at 18:45:30
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> > hi john. the 5mg was extremely sedating 2 hours after taking. it was 7pm when i took it last night. and the sedation lasted until 3pm today. But it should go down. the sedation. I need the zyprexa as an AD. The pdoc before said we could raise it to 10mg... would 5mg be enough for good anti depressant effect?
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> > perhaps taking it with wellbutrin would be good. and a stimulant along with them.
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> Hi Adamie,
> There isn't any concrete dosage of Zyprexa that I am aware for depression. But just based on my own anecdotal observations I think the doses are in the 2.5mg to 10mg range. I take 5mg. But I also must admit that as much as I like Zyprexa, I am not so sure about its ability to be a stand alone antidepressant. I think it instead is a wonderful companion to turbocharge an antidepressant. For some strange reason it seems to go especially well with Prozac, and there have been clinical studies done in that area that look very interesting and promising. My favorite all star combo though involves an antidepressant (preferably Prozac), Zyprexa (sometimes Risperdal instead), and a stimulant (Adrafinil is especially special with Prozac and/or Zyprexa).hi. today there was no day time sedation. so it was just a one day thing. I think I can deffinetly handle 10mg. And so I will raise it up soon. On monday I am seeing my pdoc again. We are going to talk about adding a medication, raising zyprexa, and whatever else. I have been thinking about adding wellbutrin or reboxetine. wellbutrin since it's supossed to be stimulating and good for concentration.
it seems my depression is mostly due to the brain dead factor. Normal for me was to have many thoughts in my mind. Always thinking of things and imagining things. The less I am able to think of things the worse it is for me. And that's when the mind torture comes in. It's like being brain dead. Perhaps lack of thinking ability is my primary symptom and therefor if that improves then everything improves. I certainly felt this way today. concentration a little better than last day and so everything was better. including emotions I think but it's hard to tell.
so my ability to think needs to be improved. me has retarded depression. pseudodementia due to depression or something.
so wellbutrin could be good. The reboxetine could be good also. Despite its bad reputation on this board it could be a very good med for retarded depression. I have read a few things about that. So maybe I will try it.
Convincing my mom to order me adrafinil could be tough but I will see how things go. If the family physician doesn't prescribe a stimulant for me then I'll try to convince my mom to order it. by then she will probably say yes.
and regarding prozac I really dont want to try seratonin meds anymore unless somehow everything else fails. stopping paxil made me much better. and the effexor made me suicidal. extreme mind torture.
thanks for replying. take care
> The sedation you are experiencing will diminish, so don't let that discourage you. If it is just too much, then take a sharp knife and cut the pill in half to make 2.5mg. Get used to that first before going back to 5mg. Don't worry if you can't cut the pieces exactly, they don't have to be real accurate. But just cut them one at a time as needed. Don't cut a bunch in advance, as the inside can degrade once exposed to air. In the meantime, consider starting 2.5mg to 10mg Prozac (mix the contents of a capsule in orange juice and drink custom size doses, saving the rest in the fridge for next time, stir well each time), and order some Adrafinil. If I sound overly confident about this combination, it is because I am indeed very confident about it. Mileage does vary of course, but I have to admit that if we view this whole thing as a hit and miss game, the odds are dramatically in your favor with such a combo.
> John
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