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Posted by Kristi on September 9, 2001, at 0:50:04
Just me again.... saying hi... wondering how your doing on the anit-smoking capaign. I guess I can consider myself quit now.... it's been 2 weeks. I crave them soooooooooooo bad sometimes... but if I actually held one in my hand(got one from a friend).. I can't ever light it out of guilt. I guess that's a good thing.
Welll..... Made it thru my first week at work, and it beat me up. I see your all still here. Let me know if there finally is an EASY clear cut way to the chat room.... and let me know how your doing. Take care of yourself........ kristi
Posted by sar on September 9, 2001, at 1:08:21
In reply to Hey sar....., posted by Kristi on September 9, 2001, at 0:50:04
hey kristi,
i've had 4 or 5 smokes in the past 2-3 weeks. i've stopped buying herbals, am on step 2 of the patch, and alternate my nicorette with regular gum
today i had my first sharp craving in quite awhile--cruising down the highway windows down after my dinner-break from work, great music on, had just seen my mom for the first time in a few weeks (mixed feelings), had eaten fabulously--but my gum, klonopin, and work-business made it okay.
how are *you* doing? you're not allowed any nicotine, right? so no patch or gum? i imagine you're going through a much tougher time than me, plus you smoked longer than i did! shit, girl, i'm feelin for you.
do you feel cleaner in any way? the other day i spoke with a co-worker after he'd just had a smoke, and he stunk! i mean it didn't bother me, i just knew that i didn't want to smell like that.
faces, faces. what keeps pushing me most are the women in the sixties i run across with their cigarette-voices and leathery faces...i wanna age as gracefully as possible! so i tell myself, if you're going to drink like this, you can't smoke like that. does the smoke in the casinos disgust you at all? what methods are you currently using to deter yrself from smoking? does the hypnosis still work for you?
my trick: imagine being 65, with all those vertical wrinkles above your lips, and a voice that sounds like a mean robot or a man. be vain! or imagine being 75 and sucking cigs through a hole in your throat.
imagine being an old hag coughing stinking looking like an ashtray.
LET'S QUIT!!!
i want to allow myself the occasional (fine glass of merlot, after great sex, after expensive gourmet meal, after tragedy) but i never want to be pack-a-day again. ever.
have you ever given anything up before? i do beleive that humans can be inherently resolving. in preschool i pledged never to suck my thumb again (and didn't). in grade 2 i pledged to stop chompin on my nails (and spent a summer concentrating on quitting). (i guess i felt lots of guilt even as a kiddo!)
i've heard--correct me if i'm wrong, that it takes 30 days to create a habit, and 90 to break it...we're on the same 2-3 week starter-crux...i know we can do it if we just keep on truckin...
love
sar
Posted by akc on September 9, 2001, at 8:15:32
In reply to Re: Hey sar..... » Kristi, posted by sar on September 9, 2001, at 1:08:21
kristi and sar,
What you are doing is very tough. And I admire the hell out of you.
akc
Posted by Kristi on September 9, 2001, at 14:47:15
In reply to Re: Hey sar..... » Kristi, posted by sar on September 9, 2001, at 1:08:21
Hey sar,
Good job..... 4/5 smokes in 2 or 3 weeks? Definatley reason for a glass of Merlot. :-)Oh.... I can relate to those sharp cravings. I hate to repeat myself.. where I work the smoke is everywhere. That totally sucks. I just try to keep myself busy as hell... and I'm probably making more money for it....on break I stick on one of those little self hypnosis quit smoking tapes in my ol' walkman, and that seems to settle me for the day. For some reason this morning, my day off.. I woke up and keep craving really bad. Besides the hypnosis, which seems to work the best... I hold a piece of liquorice and just suck on it.
And you are so right when you speak of looking at older wrinkly faces. I look at someone my age smoking and I think it looks disgusting.... thats what keeps me going ususally and gets me thru the toughest parts. There are times when I forget I don't smoke..... I'll walk into the bathroom at work and reach into my purse to grab that cig... and it isn't there........ and I have to think, and I get a little sad.... cuz a long lost friend is gone!
Yes.... I do seem to smell it more on other people than I used to. I have also had alot of people tell me "you smell good".... I've always wornthe same perfume, so I know it's not that. Hmmm..... what did I smell like?! :-)
YES...... LETS QUIT!!!!!!!! We can do this. We are tougher than a lousy little f'n stick!!!
I was bulimic in high school. I never wanted to admit it to anyone, and I wanted to get help so eventually I controlled it myself.... without help.. so in a way I have quit something. Doctors tell me now that they are amazed I just came back to without any help.... and if I can do that... this should be a breeze.
What I'm going thru is not helping tho.... that's the problem. I told you all the gross things I have to do right now to the wound..... it would be so much more bearable if I knew I could smoke when it was all over each time? You know what I mean.
I too want to allow myself the occasional.... but I don't think I can do that yet. I think if I were to light up now, I'd start again. Not tough enough quite yet.... hopefully soon... cuz yes, there are times a cig would be so fun!!!!!!
Thanks for the support sar... you can't imagine how much it helps. You hang in there too... altho you seem ok, at least you don't complain as much. :-) Take care.........Kristi
> hey kristi,
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> i've had 4 or 5 smokes in the past 2-3 weeks. i've stopped buying herbals, am on step 2 of the patch, and alternate my nicorette with regular gum
>
> today i had my first sharp craving in quite awhile--cruising down the highway windows down after my dinner-break from work, great music on, had just seen my mom for the first time in a few weeks (mixed feelings), had eaten fabulously--but my gum, klonopin, and work-business made it okay.
>
> how are *you* doing? you're not allowed any nicotine, right? so no patch or gum? i imagine you're going through a much tougher time than me, plus you smoked longer than i did! shit, girl, i'm feelin for you.
>
> do you feel cleaner in any way? the other day i spoke with a co-worker after he'd just had a smoke, and he stunk! i mean it didn't bother me, i just knew that i didn't want to smell like that.
>
> faces, faces. what keeps pushing me most are the women in the sixties i run across with their cigarette-voices and leathery faces...i wanna age as gracefully as possible! so i tell myself, if you're going to drink like this, you can't smoke like that. does the smoke in the casinos disgust you at all? what methods are you currently using to deter yrself from smoking? does the hypnosis still work for you?
>
> my trick: imagine being 65, with all those vertical wrinkles above your lips, and a voice that sounds like a mean robot or a man. be vain! or imagine being 75 and sucking cigs through a hole in your throat.
>
> imagine being an old hag coughing stinking looking like an ashtray.
>
> LET'S QUIT!!!
>
> i want to allow myself the occasional (fine glass of merlot, after great sex, after expensive gourmet meal, after tragedy) but i never want to be pack-a-day again. ever.
>
> have you ever given anything up before? i do beleive that humans can be inherently resolving. in preschool i pledged never to suck my thumb again (and didn't). in grade 2 i pledged to stop chompin on my nails (and spent a summer concentrating on quitting). (i guess i felt lots of guilt even as a kiddo!)
>
> i've heard--correct me if i'm wrong, that it takes 30 days to create a habit, and 90 to break it...we're on the same 2-3 week starter-crux...i know we can do it if we just keep on truckin...
>
> love
> sar
Posted by Kristi on September 9, 2001, at 14:50:23
In reply to I just think you two are great, posted by akc on September 9, 2001, at 8:15:32
> kristi and sar,
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> What you are doing is very tough. And I admire the hell out of you.
>
> akc
Posted by Mair on September 9, 2001, at 21:46:27
In reply to Re: Hey sar....., posted by Kristi on September 9, 2001, at 14:47:15
> Sar and Kristi - let me echo akc's sentiments.
After I had quit for about 2 or 3 months, I started feeling stronger cravings. I went to a hypnotist with my husband who was trying to quit. She planted a suggestion with me about how disgusting a habit it can be. Thinking about some of that stuff like smell etc really does help. After awhile you get so the smell and the smoke really bother you. I can't figure out how it is I smoked for so long since I seem to be almost allergic to smoke now. Allowing yourself to be really turned off helps later when you do get a strong craving. It's like you can bring the bad sensation to mind, and use it to your advantage.
You guys should feel great about what you've achieved so far.
Mair
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> Hey sar,
> Good job..... 4/5 smokes in 2 or 3 weeks? Definatley reason for a glass of Merlot. :-)
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> Oh.... I can relate to those sharp cravings. I hate to repeat myself.. where I work the smoke is everywhere. That totally sucks. I just try to keep myself busy as hell... and I'm probably making more money for it....on break I stick on one of those little self hypnosis quit smoking tapes in my ol' walkman, and that seems to settle me for the day. For some reason this morning, my day off.. I woke up and keep craving really bad. Besides the hypnosis, which seems to work the best... I hold a piece of liquorice and just suck on it.
>
>
>
> And you are so right when you speak of looking at older wrinkly faces. I look at someone my age smoking and I think it looks disgusting.... thats what keeps me going ususally and gets me thru the toughest parts. There are times when I forget I don't smoke..... I'll walk into the bathroom at work and reach into my purse to grab that cig... and it isn't there........ and I have to think, and I get a little sad.... cuz a long lost friend is gone!
>
> Yes.... I do seem to smell it more on other people than I used to. I have also had alot of people tell me "you smell good".... I've always wornthe same perfume, so I know it's not that. Hmmm..... what did I smell like?! :-)
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>
> YES...... LETS QUIT!!!!!!!! We can do this. We are tougher than a lousy little f'n stick!!!
>
> I was bulimic in high school. I never wanted to admit it to anyone, and I wanted to get help so eventually I controlled it myself.... without help.. so in a way I have quit something. Doctors tell me now that they are amazed I just came back to without any help.... and if I can do that... this should be a breeze.
>
> What I'm going thru is not helping tho.... that's the problem. I told you all the gross things I have to do right now to the wound..... it would be so much more bearable if I knew I could smoke when it was all over each time? You know what I mean.
>
> I too want to allow myself the occasional.... but I don't think I can do that yet. I think if I were to light up now, I'd start again. Not tough enough quite yet.... hopefully soon... cuz yes, there are times a cig would be so fun!!!!!!
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> Thanks for the support sar... you can't imagine how much it helps. You hang in there too... altho you seem ok, at least you don't complain as much. :-) Take care.........Kristi
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> > hey kristi,
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> > i've had 4 or 5 smokes in the past 2-3 weeks. i've stopped buying herbals, am on step 2 of the patch, and alternate my nicorette with regular gum
> >
> > today i had my first sharp craving in quite awhile--cruising down the highway windows down after my dinner-break from work, great music on, had just seen my mom for the first time in a few weeks (mixed feelings), had eaten fabulously--but my gum, klonopin, and work-business made it okay.
> >
> > how are *you* doing? you're not allowed any nicotine, right? so no patch or gum? i imagine you're going through a much tougher time than me, plus you smoked longer than i did! shit, girl, i'm feelin for you.
> >
> > do you feel cleaner in any way? the other day i spoke with a co-worker after he'd just had a smoke, and he stunk! i mean it didn't bother me, i just knew that i didn't want to smell like that.
> >
> > faces, faces. what keeps pushing me most are the women in the sixties i run across with their cigarette-voices and leathery faces...i wanna age as gracefully as possible! so i tell myself, if you're going to drink like this, you can't smoke like that. does the smoke in the casinos disgust you at all? what methods are you currently using to deter yrself from smoking? does the hypnosis still work for you?
> >
> > my trick: imagine being 65, with all those vertical wrinkles above your lips, and a voice that sounds like a mean robot or a man. be vain! or imagine being 75 and sucking cigs through a hole in your throat.
> >
> > imagine being an old hag coughing stinking looking like an ashtray.
> >
> > LET'S QUIT!!!
> >
> > i want to allow myself the occasional (fine glass of merlot, after great sex, after expensive gourmet meal, after tragedy) but i never want to be pack-a-day again. ever.
> >
> > have you ever given anything up before? i do beleive that humans can be inherently resolving. in preschool i pledged never to suck my thumb again (and didn't). in grade 2 i pledged to stop chompin on my nails (and spent a summer concentrating on quitting). (i guess i felt lots of guilt even as a kiddo!)
> >
> > i've heard--correct me if i'm wrong, that it takes 30 days to create a habit, and 90 to break it...we're on the same 2-3 week starter-crux...i know we can do it if we just keep on truckin...
> >
> > love
> > sar
Posted by Kristi on September 9, 2001, at 22:34:54
In reply to Re: Hey sar....., posted by Mair on September 9, 2001, at 21:46:27
> > Sar and Kristi - let me echo akc's sentiments.
>
> After I had quit for about 2 or 3 months, I started feeling stronger cravings. I went to a hypnotist with my husband who was trying to quit. She planted a suggestion with me about how disgusting a habit it can be. Thinking about some of that stuff like smell etc really does help. After awhile you get so the smell and the smoke really bother you. I can't figure out how it is I smoked for so long since I seem to be almost allergic to smoke now. Allowing yourself to be really turned off helps later when you do get a strong craving. It's like you can bring the bad sensation to mind, and use it to your advantage.
>
> You guys should feel great about what you've achieved so far.
>
> Mair
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> > Hey sar,
> > Good job..... 4/5 smokes in 2 or 3 weeks? Definatley reason for a glass of Merlot. :-)
> >
> > Oh.... I can relate to those sharp cravings. I hate to repeat myself.. where I work the smoke is everywhere. That totally sucks. I just try to keep myself busy as hell... and I'm probably making more money for it....on break I stick on one of those little self hypnosis quit smoking tapes in my ol' walkman, and that seems to settle me for the day. For some reason this morning, my day off.. I woke up and keep craving really bad. Besides the hypnosis, which seems to work the best... I hold a piece of liquorice and just suck on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > And you are so right when you speak of looking at older wrinkly faces. I look at someone my age smoking and I think it looks disgusting.... thats what keeps me going ususally and gets me thru the toughest parts. There are times when I forget I don't smoke..... I'll walk into the bathroom at work and reach into my purse to grab that cig... and it isn't there........ and I have to think, and I get a little sad.... cuz a long lost friend is gone!
> >
> > Yes.... I do seem to smell it more on other people than I used to. I have also had alot of people tell me "you smell good".... I've always wornthe same perfume, so I know it's not that. Hmmm..... what did I smell like?! :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > YES...... LETS QUIT!!!!!!!! We can do this. We are tougher than a lousy little f'n stick!!!
> >
> > I was bulimic in high school. I never wanted to admit it to anyone, and I wanted to get help so eventually I controlled it myself.... without help.. so in a way I have quit something. Doctors tell me now that they are amazed I just came back to without any help.... and if I can do that... this should be a breeze.
> >
> > What I'm going thru is not helping tho.... that's the problem. I told you all the gross things I have to do right now to the wound..... it would be so much more bearable if I knew I could smoke when it was all over each time? You know what I mean.
> >
> > I too want to allow myself the occasional.... but I don't think I can do that yet. I think if I were to light up now, I'd start again. Not tough enough quite yet.... hopefully soon... cuz yes, there are times a cig would be so fun!!!!!!
> >
> > Thanks for the support sar... you can't imagine how much it helps. You hang in there too... altho you seem ok, at least you don't complain as much. :-) Take care.........Kristi
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> > > hey kristi,
> > >
> > > i've had 4 or 5 smokes in the past 2-3 weeks. i've stopped buying herbals, am on step 2 of the patch, and alternate my nicorette with regular gum
> > >
> > > today i had my first sharp craving in quite awhile--cruising down the highway windows down after my dinner-break from work, great music on, had just seen my mom for the first time in a few weeks (mixed feelings), had eaten fabulously--but my gum, klonopin, and work-business made it okay.
> > >
> > > how are *you* doing? you're not allowed any nicotine, right? so no patch or gum? i imagine you're going through a much tougher time than me, plus you smoked longer than i did! shit, girl, i'm feelin for you.
> > >
> > > do you feel cleaner in any way? the other day i spoke with a co-worker after he'd just had a smoke, and he stunk! i mean it didn't bother me, i just knew that i didn't want to smell like that.
> > >
> > > faces, faces. what keeps pushing me most are the women in the sixties i run across with their cigarette-voices and leathery faces...i wanna age as gracefully as possible! so i tell myself, if you're going to drink like this, you can't smoke like that. does the smoke in the casinos disgust you at all? what methods are you currently using to deter yrself from smoking? does the hypnosis still work for you?
> > >
> > > my trick: imagine being 65, with all those vertical wrinkles above your lips, and a voice that sounds like a mean robot or a man. be vain! or imagine being 75 and sucking cigs through a hole in your throat.
> > >
> > > imagine being an old hag coughing stinking looking like an ashtray.
> > >
> > > LET'S QUIT!!!
> > >
> > > i want to allow myself the occasional (fine glass of merlot, after great sex, after expensive gourmet meal, after tragedy) but i never want to be pack-a-day again. ever.
> > >
> > > have you ever given anything up before? i do beleive that humans can be inherently resolving. in preschool i pledged never to suck my thumb again (and didn't). in grade 2 i pledged to stop chompin on my nails (and spent a summer concentrating on quitting). (i guess i felt lots of guilt even as a kiddo!)
> > >
> > > i've heard--correct me if i'm wrong, that it takes 30 days to create a habit, and 90 to break it...we're on the same 2-3 week starter-crux...i know we can do it if we just keep on truckin...
> > >
> > > love
> > > sar
Posted by sar on September 10, 2001, at 0:54:33
In reply to Re: Hey sar....., posted by Mair on September 9, 2001, at 21:46:27
dear mair,
thanks! tho i think kristi deserves more props 'cos she's been smoking longer, works in a smoke-filled environment, and is not allowed to use the patch or gum!
and then you've white-lily me, patched-up and chewing at the nic in a smoke-free environment.
still, i am a bit proud though--this is the first time in 8 years that i've given cigarettes up on my own volition (had to do it briefly twice before, doc's orders). today on break i took a walk instead of smoking.
i don't feel any different, just happy for my skin and lungs!
i do have a great love for smoking, though, and congrats for you too, mair, for kicking.
sar
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