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Posted by sunnydays on April 6, 2008, at 23:30:54
In reply to How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help, posted by Phillipa on April 6, 2008, at 22:15:15
Well... why did she convince you to change endos? Had you said that you didn't like your previous one or were concerned he wasn't being proactive enough? I would just say that you didn't like the one you changed to and want to change back, and leave it at that. But I am interested in why a T would suggest something like that... what brought it up?
sunnydays
Posted by Dinah on April 7, 2008, at 8:54:46
In reply to How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help, posted by Phillipa on April 6, 2008, at 22:15:15
It is rather unusual for a therapist to suggest a switch of doctors. My therapist has supported my own wish to switch pdocs at times, and has given me names on occasion. But he'd never make that recommendation to me.
That being said, I don't see a whole lot of practical benefit in blaming her, or saying much more than that you think you are going to switch back to the old one. Not unless you're feeling really comfortable in the relationship.
But didn't I see on the meds board that you weren't seeing your therapist any more? Forgive me if I misunderstood.
Posted by fleeting flutterby on April 7, 2008, at 9:51:49
In reply to How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help, posted by Phillipa on April 6, 2008, at 22:15:15
>> To me I'm furious at this endo and am changing back but would greatly appreciate if I should or what I should say to the therapist who convinced me to change as see her tomorrow. Thanks in advance. Phillipa<<
hmmmm.. not sure I understand - are you concerned that your endo took so long to inform you of your high TSH, do you feel he should have hospitalized you?
I do think your endo should have informed you right away about the thyroid level. When my levels were through the roof-- think doc said it was almost 30-- he called me right away. I wasn't hospitalized though -- seems in your case you were hospitalized for the anxiety not the thyroid levels-- do you think that's why?Anyway-- I hope things go well for you today. Having a balance of mind AND body can sure be a challenge for some of us. all the best to you.
fl.flutterby
Posted by Happyflower on April 7, 2008, at 11:42:28
In reply to How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help, posted by Phillipa on April 6, 2008, at 22:15:15
I think it would just be honest, tell what happened, and why you are changing back, just like you did here. T's especially know things don't always work out in professional relationships for a number of reasons.
But I must say I don't care much for that doct either and think you are making a wise decision.
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 12:18:31
In reply to Re: How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on April 7, 2008, at 8:54:46
Dinah looking for a change and this will probably be last visit with her. I always have such high hopes and always give a person another chance but out of all the times I saw her at three week intervals her choice I think my thyroid takes prority if she can't be empathetic at all. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 12:20:00
In reply to Re: How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help » Phillipa, posted by sunnydays on April 6, 2008, at 23:30:54
Sunnydays she kept saying she had a lot of her patients that saw this endo why not call him so she didn't break my arm. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 12:22:07
In reply to Re: How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help » Phillipa, posted by fleeting flutterby on April 7, 2008, at 9:51:49
Right when hospitalized they didn't know about the high TSH found out in hospital. What did you experience at 30 as that is really high? Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 12:24:10
In reply to Re: How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help, posted by Happyflower on April 7, 2008, at 11:42:28
Happyflower great advise from all of you and I'm hoping the old one will take me back and have yet to figure out how to explain why I made a switch. I seem to make stupid choices. Phillipa
Posted by raisinb on April 7, 2008, at 13:31:27
In reply to Re: How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help » sunnydays, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 12:20:00
I'd be honest with her and tell her that the doctor she recommended made a mistake with you. Maybe she won't be so quick to recommend him/her to other clients.
I also wonder whether a therapist who gives concrete, "fix it" advice like that is helpful in the long term. Sounds like you are doing the right thing to switch, even though it's so hard to keep looking and looking. It seems like you've been looking for a good therapist for a long time.
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 16:47:31
In reply to Re: How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help » Phillipa, posted by raisinb on April 7, 2008, at 13:31:27
Hey guys the T was great I am a very honest person and first said I was angry at her and then that I'd posted here and gotten great advise and took it. Said not angry at her and she said I could be I said no. Then we talked and showed her surgery site told about blurry vision after and high stress and how I'd raised benzos she was supportive. And agreed that I need to work on Grief work as being a nurse was my identity and I ran after Mom died at age l7 from having kids to nursing school and then the stuffing of deaths of patients began and I always ran to another state or another husband. And within each of us is a five year old child and she'd like me to journal my thoughts and the good dreams were really nightmares for me as was young married to first husband and kids young again and happy then wake up and reality would be there. And the one about broccoli at surgical site and pulling it out and a mushroom she thought represented good things and healthy food. So I'm keeping her and trying to get old endo back and we decided that truth is the best of what happened with the change. I just can't lie. So that's it for now without all of you couldn't have done it. Comments?????? Love hugs and kisses Phillipa ps yes I am very tired and it was very emotional but I think she finally got it and me and who I am!!!!!
Posted by seldomseen on April 7, 2008, at 16:57:49
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!!, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 16:47:31
That is WONDERFUL Phillipa. JUST GREAT!
It's nice to be heard isnt't it?
Seldom.
Posted by sunnydays on April 7, 2008, at 18:08:20
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!!, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 16:47:31
That's wonderful!!!! Hang on to that, maybe even print out a copy of your post, for the times when it's not so great - we all have ups and downs in our sessions and times we think our T's don't hear us. It sounds like she finally heard you and like the relationship is workable, so hold onto this session to remind you of that when times get hard... since unfortunately therapy gets hard when we start being honest because it's hard to confront all those feelings.
Good luck!! And that's so great!!
sunnydays
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 18:50:18
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!! » Phillipa, posted by sunnydays on April 7, 2008, at 18:08:20
Thank-you all so much. If only she'd see me weekly instead of every two weeks. Love Phillipa
Posted by llurpsienoodle on April 7, 2008, at 19:32:21
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!!, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 18:50:18
you sound great, p, and I know that you deserve to finally "connect" with someone after searching for the right T for so long.
now about that broccoli/mushroom dream... ?
:)
-Ll
Posted by Glydin on April 7, 2008, at 20:08:52
In reply to Re: How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 12:18:31
> I think my thyroid takes prority if she can't be empathetic at all.
~~~ I would not argue it's important to address your hormonal issues. I do urge you to look at how your functioning, level of life quality, contentment, etc... were at times when your thyroid levels were stable.
I think it can feel like a good thing when we can tie ALL our stuff to something "physical". The important thing, I think, is to draw the differences between something contributing versus us thinking it's completely causing. For me, seldom has one single answer worked out to become one single answer.
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 20:41:47
In reply to Re: How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help » Phillipa, posted by Glydin on April 7, 2008, at 20:08:52
Felt great until thyroid went. And that's the truth. So now we are exploring all the bad stuff that happened as a child and loss of Mother and as my first T said you have abandonment issues insisted I read Melanie Klein. Which I did. So what's the issue. One is meds other is psychological and the fact that tests in writing state. l. I have chronic lymes and 2. My thyroid is and has been off for the last two years. Stable before that.Phillips
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 20:48:02
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!! » Phillipa, posted by llurpsienoodle on April 7, 2008, at 19:32:21
Li well I guess the fact that broccoli which is healthy and mushrooms mean I see a future. Imagine eating your dinner vegetarian wise from a surgical incision? Should be in Ripley Believe It Or Not. What is important to me is that she validated my feeling today and I finally have a T who will help explore the past I swallowed like your lump for years and years. All the pain of others I took for me. Now it's my turn to be nurtured. Love Phillipa
Posted by Happyflower on April 7, 2008, at 22:08:44
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!!, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 18:50:18
Yay, I am glad it went well. (((Phillipa)))
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 22:18:20
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!! » Phillipa, posted by Happyflower on April 7, 2008, at 22:08:44
Happyflower this may sound wierd but whatever happened today for some reason my vision that had been blurry has cleared. And was able to post more on our ebay. So I think I feel better than I even thought. Thanks for the kind words. Love Phillipa
Posted by Happyflower on April 7, 2008, at 22:30:51
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!! » Happyflower, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 22:18:20
Do you think the blurriness could be stress induced?
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 23:11:27
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!!, posted by Happyflower on April 7, 2008, at 22:30:51
Happyflower was thinking this too now to figure out how to get the old endo to know what happened and not have him ditch me. Endos are very particular. Love Phillipa
Posted by Glydin on April 8, 2008, at 6:35:01
In reply to Re: How To Say It Tomorrow To T Please Help » Glydin, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 20:41:47
> Felt great until thyroid went. And that's the truth.
~~~ Well, I guess you have it all figured out then.
Posted by raisinb on April 8, 2008, at 10:01:12
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!!, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2008, at 16:47:31
Philippa, that's great! You deserve a good session after all this.
Sometimes it takes a little conflict to jumpstart intimacy, I've noticed. I don't know why that is.
Posted by Phillipa on April 8, 2008, at 16:35:58
In reply to Re: Over and Happier She Was Great!!!!! » Phillipa, posted by raisinb on April 8, 2008, at 10:01:12
Another positive today as old endo took me back and when heard what other one did his nurse thought it bordered on malpractice him not informing me of the high high rise in TSH. Message relayed to endo and he ordered bloodwork has me seeing Nurse Practioner and he will call with results. They admired the fact that I would not reveal name of other endo. So that is good. And they are no longer taking new patients growth is so high here unlike other areas so lack of all docs. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2008, at 12:31:57
In reply to Re: Another Positive!!!!!!!, posted by Phillipa on April 8, 2008, at 16:35:58
Okay why the letdown today? Maybe having to drive eight hours to see pdoc tomorrow? But not up today . Confused as to why mood is great when good things happen and then the big letdown. What does it mean? Phillipa
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