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Posted by Deneb on March 5, 2006, at 18:29:52
I want to be like Poet, a PBC virgin.
Can I start over?
I plan on never getting a PBC or block again. Can someone be my sponsor or something? Can this someone Babblemail me everyday to say, "Remember to be civil Deneb!"
Can I have a ceremony to mark this fresh start? ;-)
Deneb
Posted by JenStar on March 5, 2006, at 20:12:57
In reply to I want to start over, posted by Deneb on March 5, 2006, at 18:29:52
hi Deneb,
I get wanting to start over though, and I think you're welcome here whether you start over or just continue from where you are. :)But I think we've been over this many times before, though. Only *you* can take responsibility for your posts! It's not anyone else's job to email and remind you to be civil - it's your job to do that.
As for a ceremony...how about giving yourself a goal, and celebrating when you meet it? Just a suggestion!
JenStar
Posted by Deneb on March 5, 2006, at 20:44:33
In reply to Re: I want to start over » Deneb, posted by JenStar on March 5, 2006, at 20:12:57
> But I think we've been over this many times before, though. Only *you* can take responsibility for your posts! It's not anyone else's job to email and remind you to be civil - it's your job to do that.
Do you think I can do it myself then? Do you really think so?
> As for a ceremony...how about giving yourself a goal, and celebrating when you meet it? Just a suggestion!OK, if I can remain PBC and block free until BabbleFest, I will give myself a helium balloon.
But first...I have to wipe my slate clean.
From this day forward, I declare that my PBC slate and block slate be wiped completely. (in my mind only of course, but I wish Dr. Bob could wipe it clean as well. :-( )
(Magical transformation taking place....)
!!!!!!!!!
Now I am a PBC virgin again! (in my mind of course)
Treat me like a PBC virgin! This is really important to me.
In fact, I'm going to change my name over this...
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on March 5, 2006, at 20:54:19
In reply to Re: I want to start over, posted by Deneb on March 5, 2006, at 20:44:33
Darn it, I can't add characters to my name. I was going to add an asterisk or something to my name, but I can't.
Oh well. I'm a new Deneb though...the new PBC free Deneb.
Deneb*
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 5, 2006, at 23:10:44
In reply to Re: I want to start over, posted by Deneb on March 5, 2006, at 20:44:33
> > But I think we've been over this many times before, though. Only *you* can take responsibility for your posts! It's not anyone else's job to email and remind you to be civil - it's your job to do that.
>
> Do you think I can do it myself then? Do you really think so?Yes. Zero doubt in my mind. You're a chemist, so get with the program. ;-)
Lar
Posted by Deneb on March 6, 2006, at 0:11:24
In reply to Re: I want to start over » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on March 5, 2006, at 23:10:44
> > Do you think I can do it myself then? Do you really think so?
>
> Yes. Zero doubt in my mind. You're a chemist, so get with the program. ;-)
>
> LarLOL, I wouldn't consider myself a chemist at all. Shhhhh! I really suck at chemistry, especially organic chem. I'm more of a biologist. ;-)
Deneb*
(Look, it's Deneb in an excited energy state! LOL)
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 8:00:02
In reply to Re: I want to start over, posted by Deneb on March 6, 2006, at 0:11:24
> > > Do you think I can do it myself then? Do you really think so?
> >
> > Yes. Zero doubt in my mind. You're a chemist, so get with the program. ;-)
> >
> > Lar
>
> LOL, I wouldn't consider myself a chemist at all. Shhhhh! I really suck at chemistry, especially organic chem. I'm more of a biologist. ;-)I'm not so sure about that, missy.
> Deneb*
> (Look, it's Deneb in an excited energy state! LOL)Singlet, or doublet?
Larą
Posted by Deneb on March 6, 2006, at 10:02:00
In reply to Re: I want to start over, posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 8:00:02
> > Deneb*
> > (Look, it's Deneb in an excited energy state! LOL)
>
> Singlet, or doublet?
>
> LarąLet's keep things simple....doublet. LOL I'm "radical" aren't I? ROFL
Anyways, back to my new start.
I'm the new Deneb, Deneb*, who's going to remain PBC and block free from now on.
Deneb*
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 11:53:03
In reply to Re: I want to start over, posted by Deneb on March 6, 2006, at 10:02:00
> > Singlet, or doublet?
> >
> > Larą
>
> Let's keep things simple....doublet. LOL I'm "radical" aren't I? ROFL> Deneb*
But then you'd be Deneb·
Deneb* is excited.
Lar
Posted by Deneb on March 6, 2006, at 12:12:44
In reply to Re: the chemistry of Deneb » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 11:53:03
> > > Singlet, or doublet?
> > >
> > > Larą
> >
> > Let's keep things simple....doublet. LOL I'm "radical" aren't I? ROFL
>
> > Deneb*
>
> But then you'd be Deneb·
>
> Deneb* is excited.
>
> LarI was thinking the * could be the electron.
I told you I wasn't a chemist. :-P I don't even completely remember what a singlet, doublet or triplet is right now!
Okay, let's just say Deneb is like chlorophyll and I've just absorbed some photons. LOL
Let's not get started on resonance here. LOL
Deneb* (the asterisk means I'm the new Deneb who is *very* careful to check for triggers and uncivil things)
Okay, enough of this, I gotta go study for real! Or else I won't even know what an electron is. LOL JK, off to study some animal physiology.
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 12:47:00
In reply to Re: the chemistry of Deneb » Larry Hoover, posted by Deneb on March 6, 2006, at 12:12:44
> > Deneb* is excited.
> >
> > Lar
>
> I was thinking the * could be the electron.It's not standard symbols, though. Deneb dot is the radical Deneb. The * designates an electron bumped up into a higher state by a photon. Deneb + photon --> Deneb*
> I told you I wasn't a chemist. :-P
Piffle. You just needed a refresher.
> I don't even completely remember what a singlet, doublet or triplet is right now!
Orbital degeneracy.
> Okay, let's just say Deneb is like chlorophyll and I've just absorbed some photons. LOL
See! You knew it was a photon. You're playing games with me.
> Let's not get started on resonance here. LOLThat's quite another thing entirely. Are you a carboxylate anion?
> Deneb* (the asterisk means I'm the new Deneb who is *very* careful to check for triggers and uncivil things)That's fine with me! :-)
> Okay, enough of this, I gotta go study for real! Or else I won't even know what an electron is.
If you know what an electron is, you won't know where it is, though.
> LOL JK, off to study some animal physiology.
That's always useful information to absorb.
Lar
Posted by Deneb on March 6, 2006, at 14:06:02
In reply to Re: the chemistry of Deneb » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 12:47:00
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20060303/msgs/616661.html
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 15:29:11
In reply to Re: I want to start over » Deneb, posted by JenStar on March 5, 2006, at 20:12:57
> Only *you* can take responsibility for your posts! It's not anyone else's job to email and remind you to be civil - it's your job to do that.
I agree, people ultimately are responsible for themselves, but at the same time I'd like them to feel free to ask for help here, and I think it's great when others do help them.
Bob
Posted by JenStar on March 7, 2006, at 12:14:33
In reply to Re: responsibility, posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 15:29:11
Yes, many people here are very generous with their time and help, and it's great that they are.
I just think it's important not to confuse "asking for assistance" with "attempting to completely offload responsibility and asking someone else to be the gatekeeper for one's own actions." (Even if it's asked in a sort of lighthearted way, I think it can still imply that there is something deeper to it.)
I worry that somebody might try to take it on, and would only disappoint themselves and the asker, because it's an impossible task.
I also think it's a good idea for people not to ask for more help than could reasonably be offered by an internet buddy, because it sets them up for disappointment when it can't be given. :)
But I definitely wasn't trying to say that nobody should ask for help, or give it. Just that some kinds of help just can't be provided.JenStar
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2006, at 0:07:31
In reply to Re: responsibility » Dr. Bob, posted by JenStar on March 7, 2006, at 12:14:33
> I just think it's important not to confuse "asking for assistance" with "attempting to completely offload responsibility and asking someone else to be the gatekeeper for one's own actions."
>
> I worry that somebody might try to take it on, and would only disappoint themselves and the asker, because it's an impossible task.
>
> I also think it's a good idea for people not to ask for more help than could reasonably be offered by an internet buddy, because it sets them up for disappointment when it can't be given. :)I agree. It's important to clarify what's being asked for and what's being offered...
Bob
Posted by 838 on March 8, 2006, at 4:10:24
In reply to Re: responsibility, posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2006, at 0:07:31
I have offered to be a civility buddy for a couple people before...
In both cases I made sure to talk about my limits.
- I can't guarantee a response within a couple days
(because I don't know what might be going on in my life / with my computer access)
So... That is a limit I have.
I think it is important to be fairly clear with limits so there aren't expectations that one cannot meet. Also... It is part of taking care of yourself.
Posted by 838 on March 8, 2006, at 4:10:44
In reply to Re: responsibility » Dr. Bob, posted by 838 on March 8, 2006, at 4:10:24
Posted by Deneb on March 8, 2006, at 13:22:15
In reply to Re: responsibility, posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2006, at 0:07:31
> > I just think it's important not to confuse "asking for assistance" with "attempting to completely offload responsibility and asking someone else to be the gatekeeper for one's own actions."
I'm not doing that. I just wanted someone to help me out when I start getting out of hand and don't realize it. Just a reminder, like, "remember triggers, remember be civil".
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on March 8, 2006, at 13:55:26
In reply to Re: responsibility, posted by Deneb on March 8, 2006, at 13:22:15
Hi people,
I just wanted to tell you the method I'm using to make sure I don't post uncivil things and post triggering material without providing a trigger warning.
After every post I write, no matter what the content, before I click "submit" I read it over to look for incivilities. Then I click "submit" and read it over again to check for triggers and incivilities. Then I add an asterisk to my name and click submit and quickly scan once more before publishing the post.
I do this for *every single post* now, no matter what the content, even if it is a simple one liner.
I plan on never getting blocked again.
Deneb*
Posted by Tanzanite on March 8, 2006, at 20:44:34
In reply to My asterisk method, posted by Deneb on March 8, 2006, at 13:55:26
I think you are doing a good job with posting. And that is very awesome how you are re reading and scanning first. Me, I know this sounds silly but I am so paranoid about getting blocked or PBC'd I read and re-read several times (OCD) before I post. My poor brain. Anyways. I think this is awesome what you are doing and how you are doing this through your own methodology.
Take care ok.
Chelle
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